[rollei_list] Re: T shutter jam, cont'd

  • From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:21:52 -0700

I have the 16 frame. The shutter should have nothing to do with the frame.
Is the feel different with and without the 16 installed? Let me know, I can
check it against mine.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Sanders McNew <sanders@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I was packing up my T for shipping.  On a whim, I
> wondered whether the 16-frame mask had anything
> to do with the jam.  I removed it from the film gate ...
> and the jam disappeared.  I reinstalled the mask,
> and now the shutter fires, but you have to push
> hard to fire it -- it feels as if the shutter mechanism
> is hitting up against something inside halfway through
> the depression.
>
> Anybody have any experience using the 16-frame mask?
> I'm thinking a service call is still in order.
>
> Sanders
>
>
> On Apr 27, 2009, at 1:07 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
>
>  rollei_list Digest      Sun, 26 Apr 2009        Volume: 05  Issue: 101
>>
>> In This Issue:
>>                [rollei_list] T shutter jam
>>                [rollei_list] Re: T shutter jam
>>                [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>                [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>                [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>                [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>                [rollei_list] Re: T shutter jam
>>                [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>                [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>                [rollei_list] Re: T shutter jam
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> From: Sanders McNew <sanders@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] T shutter jam
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:06:15 -0400
>>
>> After shooting a dozen or so rolls through
>> my newly-acquired T, the shutter jammed.
>> The camera was cocked but the shutter
>> button was frozen.  I opened the back to
>> remove the film but when I shut it again
>> the shutter is still frozen.  (Yes, the shutter
>> release guard is open.)
>>
>> I am assuming that this is a job for a proper
>> repair guy.  Any thoughts as to cause?
>> I know little about the Ts and thought it
>> prudent to sound the pros before sending
>> it out.  Many thanks in advance for your
>> advice and thoughts.
>>
>> Sanders
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:02 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
>>
>>  rollei_list Digest      Mon, 16 Feb 2009        Volume: 05  Issue: 036
>>>
>>> In This Issue:
>>>                [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>                [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
>>>                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:23:56 +0100
>>> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kon_T_S=F8nderland?= <hts@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>
>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells,
>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells
>>> so
>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>
>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>
>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>
>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>> batteries.
>>>
>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>
>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Håkon
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:46 +0100
>>>
>>> Hi Håkon,
>>>
>>> I bought my 6008i2 about 4 years ago, I have one battery, and it still
>>> works fine.
>>>
>>> On average it takes 45-60 minutes to charge, and I get many more than
>>> one roll on a charge. I'm not sure how many, as I don't shoot that
>>> actively, so usually I end up topping the battery off after a period
>>> of not being used. I would guess that I get around 20-30 rolls on a
>>> charge on average, less in the winter/in snow and cold weather.
>>>
>>> It does sound like something is wrong with your setup...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Thor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16. feb.. 2009, at 13.23, Håkon T Sønderland wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>
>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that
>>>> the batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>> cells,
>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells
>>>> so it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>
>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>> batteries.
>>>>
>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Håkon
>>>> ---
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>>>>
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:05:52 +0000
>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>> From: John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Håkon,
>>>
>>> I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and you
>>> should
>>> get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in,
>>> no lights
>>> are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followed
>>> shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red
>>> light on
>>> the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into
>>> 'pulse'
>>> mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a
>>> fraction
>>> of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If you
>>> sit and
>>> watch you should see it happening.
>>>
>>> It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When
>>> you first
>>> turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the
>>> circuitry the
>>> LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full
>>> Charge' or
>>> similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1
>>> (or so)
>>> this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames
>>> that you
>>> can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as opposed
>>> to the
>>> 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and
>>> switch
>>> off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.
>>>
>>> I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the
>>> battery
>>> pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few days
>>> later,
>>> it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From memory
>>> it is
>>> the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you are
>>> not
>>> certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the
>>> probes on
>>> the respective wires from the batteries.
>>>
>>> Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
>>> batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the
>>> website
>>> for further details.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> If you have any other queries........
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>
>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>> cells,
>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement
>>>> cells so
>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>
>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>> batteries.
>>>>
>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Håkon
>>>> ---
>>>> Rollei List
>>>>
>>>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:32 -0800
>>>
>>> Hi All;
>>>
>>> Just talked to Krikor over some work my SL66 will be requiring (yes,
>>> I still use it).
>>> He said the camera is now classified as obsolete by Rollei.
>>> Which means parts will become scarce, even scarcer than they are
>>> currently.
>>> So, if you've been mulling sending yours in for a service, to your
>>> specialist of choice, better do it now.
>>>
>>> Slobodan Dimitrov
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Ferdi Stutterheim <fstutterheim@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:16:24 +0100
>>>
>>> There have been 3 Rollei chargers for the 6000 series. I am not sure
>>> about the description of the first one. The second one is the Charger
>>> N. Probably the most common one. In an earlier message John gave the
>>> "manual" for the Charger N. I have not used this first one but I
>>> believe it has no pulse mode. The latest one is the Charger C with
>>> much more colour signals.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it is best if you would check which charger you have. On mine
>>> it is printed on the back. I do have the manual for Charger C but it
>>> will be a long story, so please check your charger first.
>>>
>>> I had the same problem with one of my batteries after many years of
>>> service. I had the cells replaced. I am surprised your supplier could
>>> not get the cells. Rollei uses very common Sanyo cells every battery
>>> supplier will recognise at once. The only thing to mention is that
>>> colour of the cells was changed from green to orange I believe.
>>>
>>> When the battery is fully charged the display of the 6008i will show
>>> for just a short moment the text "bcFULL". After switching on to "S"
>>> you will have to activate the electronics by pushing the metering
>>> switch. Then the "bcFULL" message is shown but only for a short
>>> moment. When the battery is partly discharged a message like "bc=5"
>>> will be very shortly shown directly after exposure. As John explained
>>> the number will count down from 9 -> 1. I believe the numbers have no
>>> relation to the number of films or exposures that can be made.
>>>
>>> A fully charged battery shows 9.6 Volt on pins 2 and 4 from the left
>>> when the contacts face you and are down.
>>>
>>> Ferdi.
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 16-feb-2009, om 21:05 heeft John Wild het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>  Håkon,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and
>>>> you should
>>>> get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in,
>>>> no lights
>>>> are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on
>>>> followed
>>>> shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red
>>>> light on
>>>> the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into
>>>> 'pulse'
>>>> mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a
>>>> fraction
>>>> of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If
>>>> you sit and
>>>> watch you should see it happening.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When
>>>> you first
>>>> turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the
>>>> circuitry the
>>>> LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full
>>>> Charge' or
>>>> similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1
>>>> (or so)
>>>> this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames
>>>> that you
>>>> can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as
>>>> opposed to the
>>>> 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and
>>>> switch
>>>> off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.
>>>>
>>>> I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the
>>>> battery
>>>> pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few
>>>> days later,
>>>> it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From
>>>> memory it is
>>>> the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you
>>>> are not
>>>> certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the
>>>> probes on
>>>> the respective wires from the batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
>>>> batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the
>>>> website
>>>> for further details.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any other queries........
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei
>>>>> 6008i.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that
>>>>> the
>>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>>> cells,
>>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement
>>>>> cells so
>>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Håkon
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Rollei List
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>>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: Douglas Nygren <dnygr@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: T shutter jam
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:23:34 -0400
>>
>> I've had a similar problem. It mostly happens at the beginning of
>> rolls. The jam goes away after I play with the winder. I'm waiting
>> until it jams for good before I send it off. Let me know what you find
>> out.
>>
>> The problem happens from time to time. It is not a constant problem and
>> never leaves me hung up, though it does create some anxiety and
>> aggravation.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Sanders McNew wrote:
>>
>>  After shooting a dozen or so rolls through
>>> my newly-acquired T, the shutter jammed.
>>> The camera was cocked but the shutter
>>> button was frozen.  I opened the back to
>>> remove the film but when I shut it again
>>> the shutter is still frozen.  (Yes, the shutter
>>> release guard is open.)
>>>
>>> I am assuming that this is a job for a proper
>>> repair guy.  Any thoughts as to cause?
>>> I know little about the Ts and thought it
>>> prudent to sound the pros before sending
>>> it out.  Many thanks in advance for your
>>> advice and thoughts.
>>>
>>> Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:02 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
>>>
>>>  rollei_list Digest      Mon, 16 Feb 2009        Volume: 05  Issue: 036
>>>>
>>>> In This Issue:
>>>>                [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>>                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei
>>>> 6008i
>>>>                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei
>>>> 6008i
>>>>                [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
>>>>                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei
>>>> 6008i
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:23:56 +0100
>>>> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kon_T_S=F8nderland?= <hts@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>
>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells,
>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells
>>>> so
>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>
>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>> batteries.
>>>>
>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Håkon
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:46 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Hi Håkon,
>>>>
>>>> I bought my 6008i2 about 4 years ago, I have one battery, and it still
>>>> works fine.
>>>>
>>>> On average it takes 45-60 minutes to charge, and I get many more than
>>>> one roll on a charge. I'm not sure how many, as I don't shoot that
>>>> actively, so usually I end up topping the battery off after a period
>>>> of not being used. I would guess that I get around 20-30 rolls on a
>>>> charge on average, less in the winter/in snow and cold weather.
>>>>
>>>> It does sound like something is wrong with your setup...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Thor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16. feb.. 2009, at 13.23, Håkon T Sønderland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi List,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that
>>>>> the batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>>> cells,
>>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells
>>>>> so it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Håkon
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Rollei List
>>>>>
>>>>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
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>>>>> the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:05:52 +0000
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>> From: John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Håkon,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and you
>>>> should
>>>> get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in, no
>>>> lights
>>>> are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followed
>>>> shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red
>>>> light on
>>>> the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into
>>>> 'pulse'
>>>> mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a
>>>> fraction
>>>> of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If you
>>>> sit and
>>>> watch you should see it happening.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When
>>>> you first
>>>> turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the
>>>> circuitry the
>>>> LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full
>>>> Charge' or
>>>> similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1
>>>> (or so)
>>>> this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames
>>>> that you
>>>> can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as opposed
>>>> to the
>>>> 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and
>>>> switch
>>>> off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.
>>>>
>>>> I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the
>>>> battery
>>>> pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few days
>>>> later,
>>>> it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From memory
>>>> it is
>>>> the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you are
>>>> not
>>>> certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the
>>>> probes on
>>>> the respective wires from the batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
>>>> batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the
>>>> website
>>>> for further details.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any other queries........
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
>>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>>> cells,
>>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells
>>>>> so
>>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Håkon
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Rollei List
>>>>>
>>>>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:32 -0800
>>>>
>>>> Hi All;
>>>>
>>>> Just talked to Krikor over some work my SL66 will be requiring (yes,
>>>> I still use it).
>>>> He said the camera is now classified as obsolete by Rollei.
>>>> Which means parts will become scarce, even scarcer than they are
>>>> currently.
>>>> So, if you've been mulling sending yours in for a service, to your
>>>> specialist of choice, better do it now.
>>>>
>>>> Slobodan Dimitrov
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: Ferdi Stutterheim <fstutterheim@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:16:24 +0100
>>>>
>>>> There have been 3 Rollei chargers for the 6000 series. I am not sure
>>>> about the description of the first one. The second one is the Charger
>>>> N. Probably the most common one. In an earlier message John gave the
>>>> "manual" for the Charger N. I have not used this first one but I
>>>> believe it has no pulse mode. The latest one is the Charger C with
>>>> much more colour signals.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it is best if you would check which charger you have. On mine
>>>> it is printed on the back. I do have the manual for Charger C but it
>>>> will be a long story, so please check your charger first.
>>>>
>>>> I had the same problem with one of my batteries after many years of
>>>> service. I had the cells replaced. I am surprised your supplier could
>>>> not get the cells. Rollei uses very common Sanyo cells every battery
>>>> supplier will recognise at once. The only thing to mention is that
>>>> colour of the cells was changed from green to orange I believe.
>>>>
>>>> When the battery is fully charged the display of the 6008i will show
>>>> for just a short moment the text "bcFULL". After switching on to "S"
>>>> you will have to activate the electronics by pushing the metering
>>>> switch. Then the "bcFULL" message is shown but only for a short
>>>> moment. When the battery is partly discharged a message like "bc=5"
>>>> will be very shortly shown directly after exposure. As John explained
>>>> the number will count down from 9 -> 1. I believe the numbers have no
>>>> relation to the number of films or exposures that can be made.
>>>>
>>>> A fully charged battery shows 9.6 Volt on pins 2 and 4 from the left
>>>> when the contacts face you and are down.
>>>>
>>>> Ferdi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op 16-feb-2009, om 21:05 heeft John Wild het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>>  Håkon,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and
>>>>> you should
>>>>> get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in,
>>>>> no lights
>>>>> are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on
>>>>> followed
>>>>> shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red
>>>>> light on
>>>>> the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into
>>>>> 'pulse'
>>>>> mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a
>>>>> fraction
>>>>> of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If
>>>>> you sit and
>>>>> watch you should see it happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When
>>>>> you first
>>>>> turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the
>>>>> circuitry the
>>>>> LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full
>>>>> Charge' or
>>>>> similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1
>>>>> (or so)
>>>>> this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames
>>>>> that you
>>>>> can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as
>>>>> opposed to the
>>>>> 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and
>>>>> switch
>>>>> off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the
>>>>> battery
>>>>> pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few
>>>>> days later,
>>>>> it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From
>>>>> memory it is
>>>>> the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you
>>>>> are not
>>>>> certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the
>>>>> probes on
>>>>> the respective wires from the batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
>>>>> batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the
>>>>> website
>>>>> for further details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any other queries........
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei
>>>>>> 6008i.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>>>> cells,
>>>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement
>>>>>> cells so
>>>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>> Håkon
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: Sanders McNew <sanders@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:25:44 -0400
>>
>> John, that's an interesting idea.  And if I mount
>> my 0.7x Mutar on my Tele, I get ... something
>> like my 2.8E?
>> I shoot the Tele for portraits all the time.  I find that
>> the 0.7 Rolleinar does not get me close enough
>> for a tight headshot.  However, you can mount a
>> Bay III Rolleinar I on top of either Tele Rolleinar
>> and the combination gets you real close -- I use
>> the 0.35 Tele Rolleinar with a Rolleinar I all the
>> time, for photos such as these:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3076791496/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2957173694/
>>
>> Apart from some vignetting (which does not bother
>> me) I find the combination very accommodating.
>>
>> Sanders
>>
>>
>> John Wild wrote:
>>
>>  Although not recommended (or even mentioned by Rollei) a friend used a
>>> Tele-Mutar (BayIII) on his Tele-Rolleiflex to get an approximate
>>> 200mm lens.
>>> The results were good, better than enlarging the standard Tele
>>> negative to
>>> the same magnification. The results did show some slight vignetting
>>> which
>>> probably would be eliminated by stopping down a little. Light
>>> conditions did
>>> not permit this though and they were only of buildings. Someone
>>> could try
>>> this combo for portraiture?
>>>
>>> The other alternatives to taking out a bank loan to purchase a new
>>> Tele-Rollei with close focusing are to use one of the Rolleinars (.
>>> 35 or .7)
>>> for the old Teles which give head & shoulder and head shots
>>> respectively.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/04/2009 23:30, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The problem with the Tele-Mutar for portraits is that the minimum
>>>> focusing distance is magnified along with the focal length, so
>>>>
>>> it's a
>>>
>>>> little more than five feet.   And that is not close enough for a
>>>>
>>> head
>>>
>>>> shot.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Rollei List
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:44:05 -0700
>> From: Jerry Lehrer <glehrer@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>
>> Sandy,
>>
>> Sorry, but Flicker will not let me see those pictures that you have
>> linked.  I have no
>> account with them.
>>
>> Will some other way for you to show them be available?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> Sanders McNew wrote:
>>
>>> John, that's an interesting idea.  And if I mount
>>> my 0.7x Mutar on my Tele, I get ... something
>>> like my 2.8E?
>>>
>>> I shoot the Tele for portraits all the time.  I find that
>>> the 0.7 Rolleinar does not get me close enough
>>> for a tight headshot.  However, you can mount a
>>> Bay III Rolleinar I on top of either Tele Rolleinar
>>> and the combination gets you real close -- I use
>>> the 0.35 Tele Rolleinar with a Rolleinar I all the
>>> time, for photos such as these:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3076791496/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2957173694/
>>>
>>> Apart from some vignetting (which does not bother
>>> me) I find the combination very accommodating.
>>>
>>> Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> John Wild wrote:
>>>
>>>  Although not recommended (or even mentioned by Rollei) a friend used a
>>>> Tele-Mutar (BayIII) on his Tele-Rolleiflex to get an approximate 200mm
>>>> lens.
>>>> The results were good, better than enlarging the standard Tele negative
>>>> to
>>>> the same magnification. The results did show some slight vignetting
>>>> which
>>>> probably would be eliminated by stopping down a little. Light conditions
>>>> did
>>>> not permit this though and they were only of buildings. Someone could
>>>> try
>>>> this combo for portraiture?
>>>>
>>>> The other alternatives to taking out a bank loan to purchase a new
>>>> Tele-Rollei with close focusing are to use one of the Rolleinars (.35 or
>>>> .7)
>>>> for the old Teles which give head & shoulder and head shots
>>>> respectively.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/04/2009 23:30, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The problem with the Tele-Mutar for portraits is that the minimum
>>>>> focusing distance is magnified along with the focal length, so it's a
>>>>> little more than five feet.   And that is not close enough for a head
>>>>> shot.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Rollei List
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:52:28 +0200
>> From: Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>
>> It might have to do with the safety filter.
>> I'm a big fan of Sanders. He makes amazing portraits.
>> Get an account. Sanders alone is worth it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Michiel Fokkema
>>
>> Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>
>>> Sandy,
>>>
>>> Sorry, but Flicker will not let me see those pictures that you have
>>> linked.  I have no
>>> account with them.
>>>
>>> Will some other way for you to show them be available?
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> Sanders McNew wrote:
>>>
>>>> John, that's an interesting idea.  And if I mount my 0.7x Mutar on my
>>>> Tele, I get ... something
>>>> like my 2.8E?
>>>>
>>>> I shoot the Tele for portraits all the time.  I find that
>>>> the 0.7 Rolleinar does not get me close enough
>>>> for a tight headshot.  However, you can mount a
>>>> Bay III Rolleinar I on top of either Tele Rolleinar
>>>> and the combination gets you real close -- I use
>>>> the 0.35 Tele Rolleinar with a Rolleinar I all the
>>>> time, for photos such as these:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3076791496/
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2957173694/
>>>>
>>>> Apart from some vignetting (which does not bother me) I find the
>>>> combination very accommodating.
>>>>
>>>> Sanders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Wild wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Although not recommended (or even mentioned by Rollei) a friend used a
>>>>> Tele-Mutar (BayIII) on his Tele-Rolleiflex to get an approximate
>>>>> 200mm lens.
>>>>> The results were good, better than enlarging the standard Tele
>>>>> negative to
>>>>> the same magnification. The results did show some slight vignetting
>>>>> which
>>>>> probably would be eliminated by stopping down a little. Light
>>>>> conditions did
>>>>> not permit this though and they were only of buildings. Someone could
>>>>> try
>>>>> this combo for portraiture?
>>>>>
>>>>> The other alternatives to taking out a bank loan to purchase a new
>>>>> Tele-Rollei with close focusing are to use one of the Rolleinars (.35
>>>>> or .7)
>>>>> for the old Teles which give head & shoulder and head shots
>>>>> respectively.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/04/2009 23:30, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  The problem with the Tele-Mutar for portraits is that the minimum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> focusing distance is magnified along with the focal length, so it's a
>>>>>> little more than five feet.   And that is not close enough for a head
>>>>>> shot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> From: Sanders McNew <sanders@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:09:49 -0400
>>
>> Jerry, Those particular images are available online only
>> via Flickr.  But I have a number of others on my web site,
>> www.mcnew.net/portraits
>>
>> Here are direct links to a few:
>>
>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Booper101altadj.jpg
>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Brooke209adj.jpg
>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Gina201adj.jpg
>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Cat108adj.jpg
>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Jess301adj.jpg
>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Jessica209altadj.jpg
>>
>> Sanders
>>
>>
>> Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>
>> Sandy,
>>
>> Sorry, but Flicker will not let me see those pictures that you have
>> linked. I have no
>> account with them.
>>
>> Will some other way for you to show them be available?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Sanders McNew wrote:
>>
>>  John, that's an interesting idea.  And if I mount
>>> my 0.7x Mutar on my Tele, I get ... something
>>> like my 2.8E?
>>>
>>> I shoot the Tele for portraits all the time.  I find that
>>> the 0.7 Rolleinar does not get me close enough
>>> for a tight headshot.  However, you can mount a
>>> Bay III Rolleinar I on top of either Tele Rolleinar
>>> and the combination gets you real close -- I use
>>> the 0.35 Tele Rolleinar with a Rolleinar I all the
>>> time, for photos such as these:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3076791496/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2957173694/
>>>
>>> Apart from some vignetting (which does not bother
>>> me) I find the combination very accommodating.
>>>
>>> Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> John Wild wrote:
>>>
>>>  Although not recommended (or even mentioned by Rollei) a friend
>>>> used a
>>>> Tele-Mutar (BayIII) on his Tele-Rolleiflex to get an approximate
>>>> 200mm lens.
>>>> The results were good, better than enlarging the standard Tele
>>>> negative to
>>>> the same magnification. The results did show some slight vignetting
>>>> which
>>>> probably would be eliminated by stopping down a little. Light
>>>> conditions did
>>>> not permit this though and they were only of buildings. Someone
>>>> could try
>>>> this combo for portraiture?
>>>>
>>>> The other alternatives to taking out a bank loan to purchase a new
>>>> Tele-Rollei with close focusing are to use one of the Rolleinars (.
>>>> 35 or .7)
>>>> for the old Teles which give head & shoulder and head shots
>>>> respectively.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/04/2009 23:30, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The problem with the Tele-Mutar for portraits is that the minimum
>>>>> focusing distance is magnified along with the focal length, so
>>>>>
>>>> it's a
>>>>
>>>>> little more than five feet.   And that is not close enough for a
>>>>>
>>>> head
>>>>
>>>>> shot.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Rollei List
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:26:13 -0700
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: T shutter jam
>> From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Do you see any residue on the blades? If so then yes, maybe time for a
>> visit
>> to the Harry Fleenor repair center.
>> If you open the back door and leave it open does it release the shutter at
>> all? Have you tried turning the crank backward then forward? Does it move
>> in
>> both or only one direction?
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Sanders McNew <sanders@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>  After shooting a dozen or so rolls through
>>> my newly-acquired T, the shutter jammed.
>>> The camera was cocked but the shutter
>>> button was frozen.  I opened the back to
>>> remove the film but when I shut it again
>>> the shutter is still frozen.  (Yes, the shutter
>>> release guard is open.)
>>>
>>> I am assuming that this is a job for a proper
>>> repair guy.  Any thoughts as to cause?
>>> I know little about the Ts and thought it
>>> prudent to sound the pros before sending
>>> it out.  Many thanks in advance for your
>>> advice and thoughts.
>>>
>>> Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:02 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
>>>
>>> rollei_list Digest      Mon, 16 Feb 2009        Volume: 05  Issue: 036
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In This Issue:
>>>>              [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>>              [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>>              [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>>              [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
>>>>              [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:23:56 +0100
>>>> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Håkon_T_Sønderland?= <hts@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>
>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells,
>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells so
>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>
>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the batteries.
>>>>
>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Håkon
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:46 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Hi Håkon,
>>>>
>>>> I bought my 6008i2 about 4 years ago, I have one battery, and it still
>>>> works fine.
>>>>
>>>> On average it takes 45-60 minutes to charge, and I get many more than
>>>> one roll on a charge. I'm not sure how many, as I don't shoot that
>>>> actively, so usually I end up topping the battery off after a period
>>>> of not being used. I would guess that I get around 20-30 rolls on a
>>>> charge on average, less in the winter/in snow and cold weather.
>>>>
>>>> It does sound like something is wrong with your setup...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Thor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16. feb.. 2009, at 13.23, Håkon T Sønderland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that
>>>>> the batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>>> cells,
>>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells
>>>>> so it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Håkon
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:05:52 +0000
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>> From: John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Håkon,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and you
>>>> should
>>>> get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in, no
>>>> lights
>>>> are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followed
>>>> shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red light
>>>> on
>>>> the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into
>>>> 'pulse'
>>>> mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a
>>>> fraction
>>>> of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If you sit
>>>> and
>>>> watch you should see it happening.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When you
>>>> first
>>>> turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the circuitry
>>>> the
>>>> LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full Charge'
>>>> or
>>>> similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1 (or
>>>> so)
>>>> this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames that
>>>> you
>>>> can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as opposed to
>>>> the
>>>> 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and
>>>> switch
>>>> off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.
>>>>
>>>> I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the
>>>> battery
>>>> pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few days
>>>> later,
>>>> it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From memory it
>>>> is
>>>> the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you are not
>>>> certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the probes
>>>> on
>>>> the respective wires from the batteries.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
>>>> batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the
>>>> website
>>>> for further details.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any other queries........
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi List,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
>>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells,
>>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells so
>>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> Håkon
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:32 -0800
>>>>
>>>> Hi All;
>>>>
>>>> Just talked to Krikor over some work my SL66 will be requiring (yes,
>>>> I still use it).
>>>> He said the camera is now classified as obsolete by Rollei.
>>>> Which means parts will become scarce, even scarcer than they are
>>>> currently.
>>>> So, if you've been mulling sending yours in for a service, to your
>>>> specialist of choice, better do it now.
>>>>
>>>> Slobodan Dimitrov
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> From: Ferdi Stutterheim <fstutterheim@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:16:24 +0100
>>>>
>>>> There have been 3 Rollei chargers for the 6000 series. I am not sure
>>>> about the description of the first one. The second one is the Charger
>>>> N. Probably the most common one. In an earlier message John gave the
>>>> "manual" for the Charger N. I have not used this first one but I
>>>> believe it has no pulse mode. The latest one is the Charger C with
>>>> much more colour signals.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it is best if you would check which charger you have. On mine
>>>> it is printed on the back. I do have the manual for Charger C but it
>>>> will be a long story, so please check your charger first.
>>>>
>>>> I had the same problem with one of my batteries after many years of
>>>> service. I had the cells replaced. I am surprised your supplier could
>>>> not get the cells. Rollei uses very common Sanyo cells every battery
>>>> supplier will recognise at once. The only thing to mention is that
>>>> colour of the cells was changed from green to orange I believe.
>>>>
>>>> When the battery is fully charged the display of the 6008i will show
>>>> for just a short moment the text "bcFULL". After switching on to "S"
>>>> you will have to activate the electronics by pushing the metering
>>>> switch. Then the "bcFULL" message is shown but only for a short
>>>> moment. When the battery is partly discharged a message like "bc=5"
>>>> will be very shortly shown directly after exposure. As John explained
>>>> the number will count down from 9 -> 1. I believe the numbers have no
>>>> relation to the number of films or exposures that can be made.
>>>>
>>>> A fully charged battery shows 9.6 Volt on pins 2 and 4 from the left
>>>> when the contacts face you and are down.
>>>>
>>>> Ferdi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Op 16-feb-2009, om 21:05 heeft John Wild het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>> Håkon,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and
>>>>> you should
>>>>> get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in,
>>>>> no lights
>>>>> are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followed
>>>>> shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red
>>>>> light on
>>>>> the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into
>>>>> 'pulse'
>>>>> mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a
>>>>> fraction
>>>>> of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If
>>>>> you sit and
>>>>> watch you should see it happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When
>>>>> you first
>>>>> turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the
>>>>> circuitry the
>>>>> LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full
>>>>> Charge' or
>>>>> similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1
>>>>> (or so)
>>>>> this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames
>>>>> that you
>>>>> can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as
>>>>> opposed to the
>>>>> 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and
>>>>> switch
>>>>> off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the
>>>>> battery
>>>>> pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few
>>>>> days later,
>>>>> it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From
>>>>> memory it is
>>>>> the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you
>>>>> are not
>>>>> certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the
>>>>> probes on
>>>>> the respective wires from the batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
>>>>> batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the
>>>>> website
>>>>> for further details.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any other queries........
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
>>>>>> Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
>>>>>> batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
>>>>>> cells,
>>>>>> unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement
>>>>>> cells so
>>>>>> it is taking an awful lot of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
>>>>>> fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
>>>>>> batteries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So a couple of questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
>>>>>> 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>> Håkon
>>>>>> ---
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:28:37 -0700
>> From: Jerry Lehrer <glehrer@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>>
>> Sanders,
>> Really wonderful work.  The only disturbing not was the piercing of some
>> of the subjects.
>> I have seen some of the medical consequences of those,  It ain't pleasant.
>>
>> I can tell from the POV that a TLR was used.  I would have used my
>> H'blad with a
>> 150mm lens.  Your vignetting showed but was not distracting at all.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> Sanders McNew wrote:
>>
>>> Jerry, Those particular images are available online only
>>> via Flickr.  But I have a number of others on my web site,
>>>
>>> www.mcnew.net/portraits <http://www.mcnew.net/portraits>
>>>
>>> Here are direct links to a few:
>>>
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Booper101altadj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Brooke209adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Gina201adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Cat108adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Jess301adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Jessica209altadj.jpg
>>>
>>> Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>>
>>> Sandy,
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, but Flicker will not let me see those pictures that you
>>> have linked. I have no
>>> account with them.
>>>
>>> Will some other way for you to show them be available?
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Sanders McNew wrote:
>>>
>>>  John, that's an interesting idea.  And if I mount
>>>> my 0.7x Mutar on my Tele, I get ... something
>>>> like my 2.8E?
>>>>
>>>> I shoot the Tele for portraits all the time.  I find that
>>>> the 0.7 Rolleinar does not get me close enough
>>>> for a tight headshot.  However, you can mount a
>>>> Bay III Rolleinar I on top of either Tele Rolleinar
>>>> and the combination gets you real close -- I use
>>>> the 0.35 Tele Rolleinar with a Rolleinar I all the
>>>> time, for photos such as these:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3076791496/
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2957173694/
>>>>
>>>> Apart from some vignetting (which does not bother
>>>> me) I find the combination very accommodating.
>>>>
>>>> Sanders
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Wild wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Although not recommended (or even mentioned by Rollei) a friend used a
>>>>> Tele-Mutar (BayIII) on his Tele-Rolleiflex to get an approximate 200mm
>>>>> lens.
>>>>> The results were good, better than enlarging the standard Tele negative
>>>>> to
>>>>> the same magnification. The results did show some slight vignetting
>>>>> which
>>>>> probably would be eliminated by stopping down a little. Light
>>>>> conditions did
>>>>> not permit this though and they were only of buildings. Someone could
>>>>> try
>>>>> this combo for portraiture?
>>>>>
>>>>> The other alternatives to taking out a bank loan to purchase a new
>>>>> Tele-Rollei with close focusing are to use one of the Rolleinars (.35
>>>>> or .7)
>>>>> for the old Teles which give head & shoulder and head shots
>>>>> respectively.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/04/2009 23:30, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem with the Tele-Mutar for portraits is that the minimum
>>>>>> focusing distance is magnified along with the focal length, so it's a
>>>>>> little more than five feet.   And that is not close enough for a head
>>>>>> shot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Rollei List
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:36:34 -0700
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Tele Mutar & Tele Rolleiflex
>> From: Gene Johnson <genej2ster@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> really nice shots.
>> Gene
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Jerry Lehrer <glehrer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>  Sanders,
>>>
>>> Really wonderful work.  The only disturbing not was the piercing of some
>>> of
>>> the subjects.
>>> I have seen some of the medical consequences of those,  It ain't
>>> pleasant.
>>>
>>> I can tell from the POV that a TLR was used.  I would have used my H'blad
>>> with a
>>> 150mm lens.  Your vignetting showed but was not distracting at all.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> Sanders McNew wrote:
>>>
>>> Jerry, Those particular images are available online only
>>> via Flickr.  But I have a number of others on my web site,
>>>
>>> www.mcnew.net/portraits
>>>
>>> Here are direct links to a few:
>>>
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Booper101altadj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Brooke209adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Gina201adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Cat108adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Jess301adj.jpg
>>> http://www.mcnew.net/portraits/slides/Jessica209altadj.jpg
>>>
>>> Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>>
>>> Sandy,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, but Flicker will not let me see those pictures that you have
>>> linked.
>>> I have no
>>>
>>> account with them.
>>>
>>> Will some other way for you to show them be available?
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>  On Apr 26, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Sanders McNew wrote:
>>>
>>> John, that's an interesting idea.  And if I mount  my 0.7x Mutar on my
>>> Tele, I get ... something
>>> like my 2.8E?
>>>
>>> I shoot the Tele for portraits all the time.  I find that
>>> the 0.7 Rolleinar does not get me close enough
>>> for a tight headshot.  However, you can mount a
>>> Bay III Rolleinar I on top of either Tele Rolleinar
>>> and the combination gets you real close -- I use
>>> the 0.35 Tele Rolleinar with a Rolleinar I all the
>>> time, for photos such as these:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/3076791496/
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sandersnyc/2957173694/
>>>
>>> Apart from some vignetting (which does not bother
>>> me) I find the combination very accommodating.
>>>
>>> Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> John Wild wrote:
>>>
>>> Although not recommended (or even mentioned by Rollei) a friend used a
>>> Tele-Mutar (BayIII) on his Tele-Rolleiflex to get an approximate 200mm
>>> lens.
>>> The results were good, better than enlarging the standard Tele negative
>>> to
>>> the same magnification. The results did show some slight vignetting which
>>> probably would be eliminated by stopping down a little. Light conditions
>>> did
>>> not permit this though and they were only of buildings. Someone could try
>>> this combo for portraiture?
>>>
>>> The other alternatives to taking out a bank loan to purchase a new
>>> Tele-Rollei with close focusing are to use one of the Rolleinars (.35 or
>>> .7)
>>> for the old Teles which give head & shoulder and head shots respectively.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/04/2009 23:30, "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The problem with the Tele-Mutar for portraits is that the minimum
>>>> focusing distance is magnified along with the focal length, so it's a
>>>> little more than five feet.   And that is not close enough for a head
>>>> shot.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Rollei List
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Be Just and Fear Not
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: T shutter jam
>> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:57:31 -0700
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sanders McNew" <sanders@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:06 AM
>> Subject: [rollei_list] T shutter jam
>>
>>
>> After shooting a dozen or so rolls through
>> my newly-acquired T, the shutter jammed.
>> The camera was cocked but the shutter
>> button was frozen.  I opened the back to
>> remove the film but when I shut it again
>> the shutter is still frozen.  (Yes, the shutter
>> release guard is open.)
>>
>> I am assuming that this is a job for a proper
>> repair guy.  Any thoughts as to cause?
>> I know little about the Ts and thought it
>> prudent to sound the pros before sending
>> it out.  Many thanks in advance for your
>> advice and thoughts.
>>
>> Sanders
>>
>>    Please edit when responding to the digest.
>>    I am not as familiar with the T as with earlier models
>> but I think the mechanism is similar. Jamming can come from
>> the shutter not being fully cocked. Its cocked by an
>> articulated lever which is worked by the crank, the system
>> works against a cam which is moved by the focus knob to
>> adjust the throw to compensate for the shutter position
>> changing with the distance focused on. If there is a bit of
>> wear the lever will not move enough to fully cock the
>> shutter. This may happen only at one end of the focus travel
>> but will eventually happen all over. When the shutter is
>> only partially cocked it will latch but not fire. I think
>> that may be what is happening here. There is an internal
>> adjustment for the lever stroke. That adjustment may be
>> enough or, if there is enough wear, the eccentric adjustment
>> or cam may need to be worked on. This is definitely a job
>> for a pro.
>>
>> --
>> Richard Knoppow
>> Los Angeles, CA, USA
>> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
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