[rollei_list] T shutter jam

  • From: Sanders McNew <sanders@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:06:15 -0400

After shooting a dozen or so rolls through
my newly-acquired T, the shutter jammed.
The camera was cocked but the shutter
button was frozen.  I opened the back to
remove the film but when I shut it again
the shutter is still frozen.  (Yes, the shutter
release guard is open.)

I am assuming that this is a job for a proper
repair guy.  Any thoughts as to cause?
I know little about the Ts and thought it
prudent to sound the pros before sending
it out.  Many thanks in advance for your
advice and thoughts.

Sanders


On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:02 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:

rollei_list Digest      Mon, 16 Feb 2009        Volume: 05  Issue: 036

In This Issue:
                [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
                [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
                [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:23:56 +0100
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kon_T_S=F8nderland?= <hts@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i

Hi List,

I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.

I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells,
unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells so
it is taking an awful lot of time.

In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.

Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.

Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.

I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the batteries.

So a couple of questions:

1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?

Many thanks,
Håkon

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From: Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:46 +0100

Hi Håkon,

I bought my 6008i2 about 4 years ago, I have one battery, and it still
works fine.

On average it takes 45-60 minutes to charge, and I get many more than
one roll on a charge. I'm not sure how many, as I don't shoot that
actively, so usually I end up topping the battery off after a period
of not being used. I would guess that I get around 20-30 rolls on a
charge on average, less in the winter/in snow and cold weather.

It does sound like something is wrong with your setup...

Cheers,
Thor



On 16. feb.. 2009, at 13.23, Håkon T Sønderland wrote:

Hi List,

I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.

I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that
the batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
cells,
unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells
so it is taking an awful lot of time.

In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.

Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.

Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.

I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
batteries.

So a couple of questions:

1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?

Many thanks,
Håkon
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:05:52 +0000
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
From: John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Håkon,

I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and you should get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in, no lights
are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followed
shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red light on the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into 'pulse' mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a fraction of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If you sit and
watch you should see it happening.

It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When you first turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the circuitry the LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full Charge' or similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1 (or so) this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames that you can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as opposed to the 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and switch
off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.

I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the battery pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few days later, it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From memory it is the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you are not certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the probes on
the respective wires from the batteries.

Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the website
for further details.

Good luck.

If you have any other queries........

John


On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Hi List,

I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.

I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells, unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells so
it is taking an awful lot of time.

In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.

Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.

Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.

I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the batteries.

So a couple of questions:

1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?

Many thanks,
Håkon
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From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete!
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:32 -0800

Hi All;

Just talked to Krikor over some work my SL66 will be requiring (yes,
I still use it).
He said the camera is now classified as obsolete by Rollei.
Which means parts will become scarce, even scarcer than they are
currently.
So, if you've been mulling sending yours in for a service, to your
specialist of choice, better do it now.

Slobodan Dimitrov

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From: Ferdi Stutterheim <fstutterheim@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:16:24 +0100

There have been 3 Rollei chargers for the 6000 series. I am not sure
about the description of the first one. The second one is the Charger
N. Probably the most common one. In an earlier message John gave the
"manual" for the Charger N. I have not used this first one but I
believe it has no pulse mode. The latest one is the Charger C with
much more colour signals.

Perhaps it is best if you would check which charger you have. On mine
it is printed on the back. I do have the manual for Charger C but it
will be a long story, so please check your charger first.

I had the same problem with one of my batteries after many years of
service. I had the cells replaced. I am surprised your supplier could
not get the cells. Rollei uses very common Sanyo cells every battery
supplier will recognise at once. The only thing to mention is that
colour of the cells was changed from green to orange I believe.

When the battery is fully charged the display of the 6008i will show
for just a short moment the text "bcFULL". After switching on to "S"
you will have to activate the electronics by pushing the metering
switch. Then the "bcFULL" message is shown but only for a short
moment. When the battery is partly discharged a message like "bc=5"
will be very shortly shown directly after exposure. As John explained
the number will count down from 9 -> 1. I believe the numbers have no
relation to the number of films or exposures that can be made.

A fully charged battery shows 9.6 Volt on pins 2 and 4 from the left
when the contacts face you and are down.

Ferdi.


Op 16-feb-2009, om 21:05 heeft John Wild het volgende geschreven:

Håkon,

I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and
you should
get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in,
no lights
are on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followed
shortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red
light on
the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into
'pulse'
mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a
fraction
of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If
you sit and
watch you should see it happening.

It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When
you first
turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the
circuitry the
LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full
Charge' or
similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1
(or so)
this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames
that you
can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as
opposed to the
'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and
switch
off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.

I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the
battery
pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few
days later,
it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From
memory it is
the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you
are not
certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the
probes on
the respective wires from the batteries.

Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000
batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the
website
for further details.

Good luck.

If you have any other queries........

John


On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Hi List,

I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.

I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.
Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the
batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new
cells,
unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement
cells so
it is taking an awful lot of time.

In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived
fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new.

Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries.

Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.

I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the
batteries.

So a couple of questions:

1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)?
2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput?

Many thanks,
Håkon
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