After shooting a dozen or so rolls through my newly-acquired T, the shutter jammed. The camera was cocked but the shutter button was frozen. I opened the back to remove the film but when I shut it again the shutter is still frozen. (Yes, the shutter release guard is open.) I am assuming that this is a job for a proper repair guy. Any thoughts as to cause? I know little about the Ts and thought it prudent to sound the pros before sending it out. Many thanks in advance for your advice and thoughts. Sanders On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:02 AM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
rollei_list Digest Mon, 16 Feb 2009 Volume: 05 Issue: 036 In This Issue: [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete! [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:23:56 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E5kon_T_S=F8nderland?= <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [rollei_list] Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i Hi List, I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i. I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries. Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells,unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells soit is taking an awful lot of time. In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new. Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries. Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the batteries.So a couple of questions: 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)? 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput? Many thanks, Håkon ------------------------------ From: Thor Legvold <tlegvold@xxxxxxx> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:46 +0100 Hi Håkon, I bought my 6008i2 about 4 years ago, I have one battery, and it still works fine. On average it takes 45-60 minutes to charge, and I get many more than one roll on a charge. I'm not sure how many, as I don't shoot that actively, so usually I end up topping the battery off after a period of not being used. I would guess that I get around 20-30 rolls on a charge on average, less in the winter/in snow and cold weather. It does sound like something is wrong with your setup... Cheers, Thor On 16. feb.. 2009, at 13.23, Håkon T Sønderland wrote:Hi List, I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i. I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries. Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that the batteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells, unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells so it is taking an awful lot of time. In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new. Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries. Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour. I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the batteries. So a couple of questions: 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)? 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput? Many thanks, Håkon --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:05:52 +0000 Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i From: John Wild <jwild@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Håkon,I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and you should get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in, no lightsare on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followedshortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red light on the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into 'pulse' mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a fraction of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If you sit andwatch you should see it happening.It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When you first turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the circuitry the LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full Charge' or similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1 (or so) this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames that you can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as opposed to the 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and switchoff and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder.I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the battery pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few days later, it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From memory it is the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you are not certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the probes onthe respective wires from the batteries. Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the websitefor further details. Good luck. If you have any other queries........ John On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi List, I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i. I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries. Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that thebatteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells, unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells soit is taking an awful lot of time. In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new. Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries. Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour.I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the batteries.So a couple of questions: 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)? 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput? Many thanks, Håkon --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list------------------------------ From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [rollei_list] SL66: Obsolete! Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:17:32 -0800 Hi All; Just talked to Krikor over some work my SL66 will be requiring (yes, I still use it). He said the camera is now classified as obsolete by Rollei. Which means parts will become scarce, even scarcer than they are currently. So, if you've been mulling sending yours in for a service, to your specialist of choice, better do it now. Slobodan Dimitrov ------------------------------ From: Ferdi Stutterheim <fstutterheim@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Battery charging question - Rollei 6008i Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:16:24 +0100 There have been 3 Rollei chargers for the 6000 series. I am not sure about the description of the first one. The second one is the Charger N. Probably the most common one. In an earlier message John gave the "manual" for the Charger N. I have not used this first one but I believe it has no pulse mode. The latest one is the Charger C with much more colour signals. Perhaps it is best if you would check which charger you have. On mine it is printed on the back. I do have the manual for Charger C but it will be a long story, so please check your charger first. I had the same problem with one of my batteries after many years of service. I had the cells replaced. I am surprised your supplier could not get the cells. Rollei uses very common Sanyo cells every battery supplier will recognise at once. The only thing to mention is that colour of the cells was changed from green to orange I believe. When the battery is fully charged the display of the 6008i will show for just a short moment the text "bcFULL". After switching on to "S" you will have to activate the electronics by pushing the metering switch. Then the "bcFULL" message is shown but only for a short moment. When the battery is partly discharged a message like "bc=5" will be very shortly shown directly after exposure. As John explained the number will count down from 9 -> 1. I believe the numbers have no relation to the number of films or exposures that can be made. A fully charged battery shows 9.6 Volt on pins 2 and 4 from the left when the contacts face you and are down. Ferdi. Op 16-feb-2009, om 21:05 heeft John Wild het volgende geschreven:Håkon, I agree with Thor, charging takes about 45 minutes to 1 hour and you should get many rolls from a full charge. When the charger is plugged in, no lightsare on, when the battery is inserted the green light comes on followedshortly by the red light as well. When charging, the green and red light on the charger should be on; when fully charged, the charger goes into 'pulse' mode. It gives a pulse of charge every minute or so lasting for a fraction of a second. The red light will flash briefly every so often. If you sit and watch you should see it happening. It sounds as if one or more of the cells is starting to fail. When you first turn on the 6008i and press the meter button to 'fire up' the circuitry the LEDs in the top left of the viewfinder screen should say 'Full Charge' or similar. Alternatively there will be a number displayed from 9 to 1 (or so) this indicates the remaining charge and possible number of frames that you can shoot. I expect that in your case a number would show as opposed to the 'Full Charge'. If 'Full Charge' shows, take a couple of frames and switch off and back on again and check the information in the viewfinder. I would suspect failing cells. If you can check the voltage on the battery pack with a multi-meter when it has finished charging and a few days later, it will tell you if the pack is holding a charge or not. From memory it is the two outside holes on the end of the connection holes. If you are not certain, undo the little screws and pull the end off and put the probes on the respective wires from the batteries. Andrew Bell who hosts the www.rollei.org.uk website will re-cell 6000 batteries. His email address is: andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to the website for further details. Good luck. If you have any other queries........ John On 16/02/2009 12:31, "Håkon T Sønderland" <hts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi List,I have a question regarding the battery charger for the Rollei 6008i.I got the camera used with a charger and two batteries.Neither will last more than for about one film, so I thought that thebatteries where at fault. I sent on in to be re-fitted with new cells, unfortunately the repair shop is unable to get the replacement cells so it is taking an awful lot of time. In the mean time I bought a brand new battery from e-bay. It arrived fine and with all the packaging and looked brand new. Unfortunately it does not last any longer than the other batteries. Also the charge time was very short, less than one hour. I'm worried that my problem is really the charger and not the batteries. So a couple of questions: 1. What is the normal charging time for a battery (from empty)? 2. Is there any way of finding out if the charger is kaput? 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