James, I am sure you will experience 'the wrath of the gods' for posting images on the list ;-) but, yes the recessed ring with the two spanner key slots in it. The depth of that ring determines the maximum aperture of the lens which the camera picks up... I have measured my lenses, using the matt step of the mount - assuming this is the reference register face - to the bottom of the groove using a digital vernier caliper. A dial gauge would be more accurate but there should be a reasonable tolerence and I expect that the depth when plotted on a graph will be linear, so discrepencies can be adjusted... F1.4 - 1.15mm F1.8 - 1.4mm F2.8 - 1.9mm F4.0 - 2.2mm An earlier QBM has no step at all which gives the camera a 'no maximum aperture available' signal, but the 'aperture set' information is still transferred to the camera by the 'finger' on the lens. John -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Richard Tyrer Sent: 21 August 2010 01:37 To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 35 SL lenses QBM IV (3-Pin) On 08/10/10 04:33, John Wild wrote: > James, > > Belatedly responding to your query; from memory (I do not have any of > my 3000 lenses in front of me), the QBM IV lenses have a groove around > the circumference of the mount. The groove depth gives the maximum > lens aperture information to the camera metering system. John: I think that I now understand this enough so that if I had a lens in hand and armed with a caliper that I could tell a QBM III from a QBM IV. Still looking at pictures and trying to figure out what to look for in a photo. That attached photo shows the outer retaining ring on the rear of a Planar 50/1.8. Is that small step in the retaining ring what I should be looking for? -- James Tyrer Linux (mostly) From Scratch --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list