One spends one's spare time comparing the merits of this or that system, tool, method in the hopes of teasing out a detail that might inform one's work. There is no other way test knowledge or taste besides argument. If it gets unpleasant once in while, that's because of the remoteness of this particular mode of communication. Ironically, this is exactly why I don't belong to printing forums. It drives me nuts having to explain why this or that method or press is better for this or that product. I can feel stingy sometimes about all that I've learned by doing over the years. So I'm always impressed by the generosity of the participants of the several photography message boards I frequent, not so much that they argue over minutia. And as you state that all the gear is of pretty decent quality, getting to know the differences that might help you, really does require argument. Now it need not devolve to assault and insult, but sometimes it does.
E. On Oct 2, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Thor Legvold wrote:
Hi Mark,while I will without hesitation defer to you experience, my background as an artist and someone who appreciates great photography would venture me to guess that as far as most pro/major label gear manufactured since the first world war goes, it's all pretty decent quality (as far as saturation, colour, sharpness, etc). I.e. whether a Leica or Nikon or Canon or Rollei or Minolta or Fuji or Pentax or Conax/Zeiss, which image will be 'the best' as far as those issues go is mostly angels on the head of a pin. There may be subtle differences, yes, but the composition and lighting play a much (MUCH) larger role than a difference of 10LPM resolving power. Or our ever recurring Schneider vs Zeiss argument (I own, and use both. Is there a difference? Yes, there is. Does it get in the way of me creating powerful images - or trying to? Not in the least. It's all part of knowing your gear and getting the best from it).I think as well that many shots we today regard as classics or benchmarks for the genre, are not due to how sharp or saturated they are, but rather due to the subject, framing, composition, lighting, etc. I.e. any reasonably capable equipment should get you there. Maybe not a disposable camera, but not many pros use those :-). Which jumps out the best is not neccesarily a factor of sharpness, or contrast, or colour, etc.But you're the pro, you know best. I try to get stuff at a level where if the results are horrible, it's not the gear's fault ;-)Cheers, Thor On 3. okt.. 2009, at 00.25, Mark Rabiner wrote:I think it's really funny that you guys spend so much time arguing (yes, arguing) about which is "best".Since when did the sharpest, most colour saturated picture equate with"best?" Since when did LPM resolution equate with "best"? Boys and their toys, always got to argue over who's got the biggest baddest equipment. :-)How can you quantify "art", an essentially subjective endeavor? (Lookat Sanders images. Look at Daniels images. See what I mean?) Use what you like. It's the result that counts, how you get there is your own business. There is no best, only what works well for you.That might not be (indeed, is most certainly not) what works well forme. Live and let live. Have a good weekend, ThorPlenty of times.Plenty of times when you're choosing between two images the one you go withis the one which is the most clear. Clarity. There are times whenspontaneity wins out. And you don't even care if you've really got your focus. But in just as many probably more times what makes a shot a winner of the others is the shot which is the most clear. The shot in which thesubject jumps out the best.Clarity normally involves such trifles as resolution, sharpness, acutance,Saturation.So you try to pick out a lens which gives you the best results. You try topick out the best lens. That's right! The tools you use to do a job counts. Mark William Rabiner --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list
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