There is a setting to say the other way around I always just say measure everything from the tip of the nose or I didn’t see your design maybe you had something wrong or out of wack on it. Jack G From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of chris_coffee@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:39 AM To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [roc-chat] Re: [roc-chat] Re: Motor and Case Fitting Thanks, Jack. This will help a lot. The only reason I said the CG was behind the CP is because that's what openrocket has it at. That's what had me confused because I knew it was suppose to be the other way around. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Jack Garibaldi" <jackgaribaldi@xxxxxxx> To: <roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [roc-chat] Re: Motor and Case Fitting Date: Sun, Dec 16, 2012 12:23 am I also noticed you said the CG behind the CP everything is measured from the tip of the nose so the CG is forward the CP not Behind it. Jack G From: roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:roc-chat-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Coffee Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:41 PM To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [roc-chat] Motor and Case Fitting Hello everyone, I am currently in the process of building a Madcow 4.0” Fiberglass Little John. It has a plastic nose cone with a fiberglass wrap on the inside (not sure if there is a actual nomenclature for that design) and a 10” long 54mm motor mount. The instructions state the “estimated” CP is at 36”. I have put together a simulation with OpenRocket to the best of my knowledge (I am certainly no expert with the program) and I am seeing a slight problem. According to O.R. the CP is at 34.508 in. and the CG is at 35.196 in.! When I add weight to the nose cone, in order to get the CP at least 4.0” behind the CG I have to add approximately 18 oz. of weight. To me that just seems a bit drastic so I figured I would put it out here and see if I can get some advice on what to do. I have attached the copy of what I have done with O.R. to this point. As of now the parachute is just a experimental size because I am not sure what size to use. Was told to wait until I get the rocket built and then we could figure it out, so I am just playing with ideas here when it comes to the chute. Christopher L. Coffee