Ray, I like it better, but that guy is still standing there, I am sorry to say. (sorry for this flurry of e-mails, I'll quit now) Resend if you do clone brush him out, I like the shot!! Lar -----Original Message----- From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Buck Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:20 PM To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ratpack] Re: Does this work? Larry, your comments about PhotoShop are exactly what I was describing. But again, it may be a Mac mindset...or maybe you just have to use it so much that it finally becomes intuitive. I attached the shot of the bike with the whole background monochrome. Maybe I'll just clone brush the guy out completely. RtR At 11:17 AM 11/2/2009, you wrote: >Hi Ratpackers >Well I am vertical again if a little wobbley. How was miller on sat? >the weather looked wonderful, at least out or my bed room window with >half swollen shut eyes (ok, maybe a little exaggeration). I need to see >pics gentlemen!!! I have not checked all of my email yet, so forgive me >if you already sent some. I just wanted to comment on Ray's de-colored >photo. > >I like it. But, I think if you left the sky b&w too it would draw you >eye more to just the motorcycle. My eye went from the bike to the sky >and on the way to the sky it stopped at the guy in the background. Just >my thoughts. > >As to your testing of Photoshop, thank you for sharing that. I have a >copy of CS2 on my pc and struggle with the interface. It doesn't work >like a lot of other photo editing tools. It can do amazing stuff, but >some of the simple basic things I want done in a hurry: crop, sharpen, >saturation, contrast Are a little harder to get too. The menu's are NOT >intuitive to me. I like you have spent my career using windows and I >have very little time on an apple/mac (although as buggy as windows is, >I am not sure I haven't made a mistake) so maybe that is the crux of >our problem. I found a feature in CS2 call liquify and it is amazing. >You can take a woman with wide hips and shrink them in, truly amazing. >But I think you have to commit to photoshop to really use it. I am not >ready to commit (cost, time, works better on apple). I also use corel's >product and it is more intuitive to me, but I use a few other products >too. Windows Live Photo Gallery to sharpen, crop, straighten, contrast, >saturation and a few others. I use paint.net to adjust the size of the >files and take the color out like Ray has done in the picture he sent >of the bike. >I even use an old one called ACDSEE to grade some of my pics because it >seems to give me a clearer picture with my monitor. Then I use >photoshark to do the water marks. I think that Corel's product does all >of this, if I would take the time to learn. My wife just bought >photoshop elements, I have yet to play with it. Boy that was a ramble >wasn't it. > >Later Larry > >-----Original Message----- >From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >On Behalf Of Ray Buck >Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:43 PM >To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [ratpack] Does this work? > >I've begun going back to the photos I took at each salt flats event and >looking at 'em a little closer cuz I'd reserved a space for the "rest >of the story" on my web site. So I came up with this shot I'd taken of >a bike at Speed Week: > >http://www.chevyasylum.com/temp/20090809_0094r8x.jpg > >I liked the shot of the bike (although it's a bit dark) but found my >eyes going to the dude in the background with the video cam. So I >played with things a little bit and decided to "uncolor" him and the >other parts of the upper background. Then I realized that I'd wiped >the sky out. So I had to redo it and leave the sky alone...more or >less. This is the result. > >http://www.chevyasylum.com/temp/20090809_0094r8.jpg > >This is kind of a takeoff on Larry's "flaming Mazda" which I REALLY >like. So whaddya think? Does it decrease the distraction of the guy >with the camera? Or would ya just put the bike on a plain vanilla >background? I could do that, but it would be a little more work. > >Thanks, > >RtR