[pure-silver] Re: pure-silver Digest V1 #51
- From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: PureSilverNew <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:09:58 +0100
That's the point. You are not standing on public property; you are standing
on private property. They can ask you to leave if they wanted to. It's like
being in someone's store. They could do the same thing.
Regards
Ralph W. Lambrecht
On 10/30/04 9:43 PM, "Adrienne Moumin" <photowonder2010@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't get it......privatized or not, if you're physically standing on
> public property you have the right to take a photo of anything you dang well
> please...at least in the US. A "security guard" is a contracted employee,
> not an officer of the law (once again, in the US anyhow).
>
> Last time I checked, it's not against the law to photograph private property
> if you're standing on public lands while doing so. Slanderous, libelous, or
> other non-fair-use employment of the image is another story, however.
>
> When this has happened to me (and it has, by both business owners and hired
> security guards), I tell them I am within my rights to take pictures, as I
> am standing on public property. I also mention that they are within their
> rights to call the police, which they NEVER do. After all, the time spent
> calling police (who will likely refuse to come for such a non-crime) on
> someone who will be gone in moments anyhow is a no-brainer. I stand my
> ground, and they eventually are forced to go back to their business if they
> want to continue earning income, and avoid the bad PR because I tend to be
> LOUD when my civil liberties are being infringed upon.
>
> I know my approach isn't for everyone...just sharing my experiences, in the
> hope it will inspire others to stand up for their rights as well!
>
> -Adrienne
>
>
>
> ***************************************
> Rarity increases value only because of convention.
>
> Even food becomes valuable only when there is not enough of it -- as soon as
> there is too much of it, we immolate herds of cattle and let warehouses of
> grain rot.
>
> -RUSSELL SMITH
> (excerpted from TheGlobeandMail.com, 9/2/03)
>
>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:25:01 +0200
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Photography in Public Places
>> From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Margret
>>
>> Since the privatization of the railroads in Britain, they have every right
>> to show you the door. Your objection, no matter how strong, will only get
>> you into further trouble. You can however, And the guard should have told
>> you this, ask for permission in writing, in advance. Simpler yet, be quick
>> and ask for forgiveness instead.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph W. Lambrecht
>>
>>
> -------------------------------------------------------->
>>
>> From: "Margret Preece" <margretpreece@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Photography in Public Places
>> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:15:07 +0000
>>
>> I had a similar if less violent incident quite recently in London (in
>> Canary
>> Wharf for those who know London). I wanted to photograph a post-type
>> advertisement and its reflection in a window, a collection of interesting
>> angles and lines. A security guard in plain clothes seemed to appear from
>> nowhere and very politely and very firmly told me to desist. I pointed out
>> to him how really uninteresting to anybody but a photographer the whole
>> setup was but he did not even consider it.
>>
>> I walked away though I feel that I should have objected much more strongly.
>> But in the end - is it worth it?? I know there is a question of civil
>> liberty etc but unless I had a few lawyers with me at the time it would not
>> have done me any good. Question is, with this happening all over the
>> place,
>> where do we go from here???? Do we have to study law to be able to defend
>> our rights?
>>
>> Margret Preece
>> West Sussex, UK
>>
>>
> ------------------------------------------
>
>>> From: "Adrienne Moumin" <photowonder2010@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [pure-silver] Photography in Public Places
>>> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:45:44 -0400
>>>
>>> NYFA (NY Foundation for the Arts) has an online article about what is,
>> and
>>> is not, lawful to photograph in NYC. Know your rights!! Please go to:
>>>
>>> http://www.nyfa.org/level3.asp?id=288&fid=6&sid=17
>>>
>>> Adrienne Moumin
>
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