[pure-silver] Re: pure-silver Digest V1 #51
- From: "Adrienne Moumin" <photowonder2010@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 15:43:25 -0400
I don't get it......privatized or not, if you're physically standing on
public property you have the right to take a photo of anything you dang well
please...at least in the US. A "security guard" is a contracted employee,
not an officer of the law (once again, in the US anyhow).
Last time I checked, it's not against the law to photograph private property
if you're standing on public lands while doing so. Slanderous, libelous, or
other non-fair-use employment of the image is another story, however.
When this has happened to me (and it has, by both business owners and hired
security guards), I tell them I am within my rights to take pictures, as I
am standing on public property. I also mention that they are within their
rights to call the police, which they NEVER do. After all, the time spent
calling police (who will likely refuse to come for such a non-crime) on
someone who will be gone in moments anyhow is a no-brainer. I stand my
ground, and they eventually are forced to go back to their business if they
want to continue earning income, and avoid the bad PR because I tend to be
LOUD when my civil liberties are being infringed upon.
I know my approach isn't for everyone...just sharing my experiences, in the
hope it will inspire others to stand up for their rights as well!
-Adrienne
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Rarity increases value only because of convention.
Even food becomes valuable only when there is not enough of it -- as soon as
there is too much of it, we immolate herds of cattle and let warehouses of
grain rot.
-RUSSELL SMITH
(excerpted from TheGlobeandMail.com, 9/2/03)
>
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:25:01 +0200
>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Photography in Public Places
>From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>Margret
>
>Since the privatization of the railroads in Britain, they have every right
>to show you the door. Your objection, no matter how strong, will only get
>you into further trouble. You can however, And the guard should have told
>you this, ask for permission in writing, in advance. Simpler yet, be quick
>and ask for forgiveness instead.
>
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>
>
>
>Regards
>
>
>
>Ralph W. Lambrecht
>
>
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>From: "Margret Preece" <margretpreece@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Photography in Public Places
>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:15:07 +0000
>
>I had a similar if less violent incident quite recently in London (in
>Canary
>Wharf for those who know London). I wanted to photograph a post-type
>advertisement and its reflection in a window, a collection of interesting
>angles and lines. A security guard in plain clothes seemed to appear from
>nowhere and very politely and very firmly told me to desist. I pointed out
>to him how really uninteresting to anybody but a photographer the whole
>setup was but he did not even consider it.
>
>I walked away though I feel that I should have objected much more strongly.
>But in the end - is it worth it?? I know there is a question of civil
>liberty etc but unless I had a few lawyers with me at the time it would not
>have done me any good. Question is, with this happening all over the
>place,
>where do we go from here???? Do we have to study law to be able to defend
>our rights?
>
>Margret Preece
>West Sussex, UK
>
>
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> >From: "Adrienne Moumin" <photowonder2010@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [pure-silver] Photography in Public Places
> >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:45:44 -0400
> >
> >NYFA (NY Foundation for the Arts) has an online article about what is,
>and
> >is not, lawful to photograph in NYC. Know your rights!! Please go to:
> >
> >http://www.nyfa.org/level3.asp?id=288&fid=6&sid=17
> >
> >Adrienne Moumin
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