Hi all I have been trying out some reversal processing of conventional B&W film (usually Ilford Pan F Plus) lately. I have been having real problems with damage to the emulsion -- it becomes very soft and 'slimy' (for lack of a better term) during the processing and makes for damaged images. I am quite certain that this damage occurs during the bleach step (I am using a permanganate bleach). Bleach is hard on emulsions, and I have also noticed that the 'sliming' tends to be most visible in the highlights of the finished positive (i.e., where the most bleaching action has occurred). I am using hand-inversion in regular stainless steel tanks and agitating quite conservatively. I would obviously like to avoid this damage. My guess is that I will need a hardening step somewhere in the process, but I fear that using hardener at the very end will be too late to save the images. Has anyone had this kind of result with reversal processing? Any tips on where in the process to insert the hardening step? (i.e., before the first dev? just before bleaching?) And suggestions for an easy-to-mix hardening solution? I do have some E6 stabilizer on hand here at home, which I believe has some hardening functions. Thanks for any and all advice Jordan ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.