[pure-silver] Re: hp5+ at 125 development times

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:28:02 -0700


----- Original Message ----- From: "Shannon Stoney" <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: hp5+ at 125 development times


The subject was kids' portraits, done outside, in the afternoon.

--shannon

   I sent an incomplete message inadvertently.
   Some notes on film speed and development.
Film speed as specified by the manufacturer is determined by a very well controlled procedure specified in an international standard. The ISO standard currently used specifies an effective contrast index by giving a range of exposure which is to produce a range of densities. Its done this way to make it independent of the H&D curve of the film. The standard specifies the method of exposure and density measurement, requires that the exposed film be stored for a time to compensate for possible latent image instability and has other controls. In the past the standard also specified a developer or even two developers (normal and fine grain) but it no longer does. The tester can use any developer _provided_ its specified along with the speed ratings. The contrast index which results from the conditions of the test is about that normally required for printing with a diffusion light source. When a lower contrast is required the film must be exposed and processed differently and that will have an effect on the speed. The ISO standard includes a chart showing the effect of a change in these conditions on contrast. The speed given by the current ISO standard is such as to yield a negative with the minimum exposure required for good shadow detail. This criteria is inherited from work done at Kodak Research Laboratories some sixty to seventy years ago by Loyd A. Jones and others. Their reason for finding the _minimum_ exposure is that both grain and sharpness of the image vary with density being best for relatively thin negatives. The research was carried out by making hundreds of negatives of various typical scenes at various exposures, making the best possible prints from these negatives and having the prints judged in a double-blind test by a large jury to find the "first excellent print" i.e. the print from the thinnest negative that yielded a good print. From this and other data Jones, et.al. determined the speed point should be such as to put the minimum density that was to print with any detail (shadow detail) at a point on the toe of the film curve where the contrast was about 1/3rd of the overall straight line curve. They also determined, that aside from grain and sharpness, most films had a tremendous exposure latitude for increased exposure, that is, negatives which received greater exposure than the minimum had tone rendition which was equally as good as the "first excellent print". This system was used internally at Kodak for a few years and some "Kodak Speeds" were published. In 1943 this system was adopted with some unfortunate changes to be the first ASA speed standard. The original ASA standard ignored the whole idea of minimum exposure and added a one stop safety factor. This resulted in general in overly dense negatives. The idea was that amateur photographers wanted some sort of picture and the latitude for over-exposure was enormously greater than for under-exposure. Kodak notes in some of its later literature that higher film speeds than those specified can be used where the photographer is sure that his/her controls are good. The Kodak system worked well but determination of the speed point was very difficult so this system was abandoned when the ASA revised its standard in 1958. The new system was based on the then new DIN system developed in Germany. In the DIN system the speed point was determined by giving the film a controlled exposure and development and finding the exposure for a density of log 0.1 above gross fog and support density. When the ASA adopted this basic system it did considerable research and found that the point on the toe part of the curve required by the Jones/Kodak system would be the same for either system when the DIN exposure was multiplied by a factor of 1.25. This basic system is what the current ISO system essentially is. The ISO standard has been revised several times over the decades its been in use but the most important change was the last revision which dropped the use of a standard developer. Because the developers specified in the various versions of the standard that had them were not similar to commercial developers it was decided that it made more sense to allow the use of any developer provided it was specified along with the results. Developers can have an effect on speed but the overall range of fastest to slowest is relatively small. D-76 has been for many decades the "standard" by which other developers is judged. Developers with low activity or large amounts of halide solvent, for example Microdol-X and Perceptol, both when used full strength, will lose about 3/4 stop of speed when compared to D-76. Some developers containing Phenidone or its relatives, for example Microphen or T-Max, will deliver about 3/4 stop more speed than D-76. About the only developers which are out of this range are the long obsolete PPD developer of the 1930s which can lose many stops of speed. Note that tone rendition is not affected between the point of minimum needed exposure and exposure many stops greater, the range depending on the film. Modern films do not "block up" that is have very low contrast in the highlights, unless given tremendous overexposure or if used with a developer which is unable to produce the highest densities of the negative. Some dilutions of HC-110 and similar developer do tend to produce a "shoulder" on the film curve but even these will yield good negatives from film which has been given substantial overexposure. Many photographers find that the speed given by the ISO standard does not give them acceptable negatives so increase exposure by about one stop. Of course, if you want negatives with a lower or high contrast than that used in the ISO measurement the _effective_ speed will be changed. The change in exposure index is about 3/4 stop for a one paper grade change of negative contrast. I have used the term Contrast Index here. That is a Kodak term which refers to contrast as measured from a low to high density point on the film curve without regard to the shape of the curve. The older term "gamma" is specified to be measured at a point on the straight line portion of the characteristic but some films do not have a straight portion (Tri-X ISO-320 film for example) so gamma becomes somewhat uncertain and Contrast Index is preferred. Average Contrast is another method of measuring contrast but does not specify the end points as the Kodak method does.

Your overexposed film is well within the range of overexposure tolerance of even older film. The effect of increased density on grain and sharpness of modern films is considerably less than on the films used by Jones, et. al. so somewhat denser negatives are quite acceptable and will give you good tone rendition.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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