> > > Since it appears in the MSDS I would assume that is for the stock solution. > > 1. what is relevant here is the pH of working solution. > > 2. several manufacturers provide separate MSDS for both stock > concentrate and working strength solutions. I have very carefully measured the pH of several working dilution developers as seen below: DDX 1:5 (1+4) 8.7 TMAX 1:5 8.45 HC110B 9.0 XTOL stock 8.2 XTOL 1:4 (1+3) 8.5 DS10 stock 8.1 DS10 1:2 (1+1) 8.1 JB9 1:5 (1+4) 8.3 Gainer PCTEA 9.0 PCTEA+10g/L BA 8.3 Gainer Borax PC 9.0-9.5 depending on mix There are more but not germane to this discussion. If any of these abreviations aren't clear, let me know and I'll detail. In general, boric acid buffers of all kinds will change pH some with dilution (see Xtol). JB ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.