The trip through Bryce is basically a road skirting the top of a valley. There are a lot of trails leading down to the bottom, but be prepared to walk a distance. It is certainly a early AM or late afternoon place. Stay at Ruby's motel... ( they also have a campground). Little to no vegetation, red rock hues. I prefer this park in B+W. Zion can be very intimate, close to the road. It is a significantly smaller locale. Very nice in color if you go quickly when the leaves change colors...or in winter when you will freeze your bippy off in the cold, but maybe get lucky enough to find a snowfall. Stay at the Lodge if possible, is not expensive and is quite a trip back in time. Springdale offers a lot of accommodations, especially choice for food. I do suggest the Photograph America newsletter on these parks. it will motivate you and give you much local info.. http://photographamerica.com/ Frank Filippone Red735i@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Does anyone have any special places in Zion or Bryce? Keeping in mind that I'm pack'n an 8x10, so long hikes are problematic. This will be my first trip to these parks. I've read a couple of guidebooks and have some good maps, but they of course point out the obvious, pre-planned tourist lookouts, etc; and at the right time of the right day these CAN be beautiful and personal. I'm looking for more of the small, intimate places; and maybe a clue as to the best time of day to be there. I know this is a tough question; I'd be hard pressed to answer it for places I frequent. One person's special place may be completely invisible to another; it takes more than the visual to make a place special and to make something worth photographing. Whereas a place or object may have something unique and personal to say to one photographer, it may have nothing to say to another. So, with all of those caveats, I'll let my original question stand, and add my thanks for any inputs. Bob Younger