Richard, Perhaps it is good to be a bit older. These days I am asked to add body parts, nip and tuck, swap heads, reduce breast, enlarge breast, redress the people in different cloths, just about every possible change to a photography possible. I started in a portrait studio watching the owner apply oils to photographs and oh what a difference it made. A simple burning of a sky, pales in comparison to reconstructing a body. Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter > -----Original Message----- > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver- > bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:05 PM > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skies > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shannon Stoney" <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:46 PM > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Skies > > > These look fishy to me. But I guess I could just look at > them as if > they were Jerry Uelsmann pix. > > --shannon > > I find it interesting that the wheel has once again been > re-invented. Multiple exposures, with and without masks, cut > and paste, etc, are all as old as photography itself. The > term "cut-and-paste" comes from the common practice in > photomechanical reproduction of making the master by cutting > and pasting the various elements, i.e., text, line drawings, > photos, which were to appear on the printed page. These > originals were usually called "paste-ups". In half tone work > the emulsions of the process plates were often floated off, > cut and assembled on a final plate for exposing the cuts. > In motion pictures the use of "matte shots" is common. > One of the first ways of doing this was to make a double > exposure in the camera using a mask or matte for each to > block out the part of the image to be added with the other > exosure. Eventually, this was done in a printer but > initially it was done in the camera to avoid additional > generations. Movies also added forgrounds, backgrounds, > skys, etc., with a method known as "glass shots" where the > desired added image was painted on a large sheet of glass > using semi-tranparent paint, and photographed against the > scene it was to fill. If done right the depth of field woud > be enough to cover up the difference in distance. While > crude this method was used well into the 1940's and maybe > even later. > Of course, in the early days of photography all sort of > dramatic scenes were assembled out of parts of different > photos, I've drawn a blank on the name for this. In any > case, while often considered to be not very respectable this > sort of multiple photo has a long history. Digital image > editors, like Photoshop, just make it easier to do (and > maybe do badly). > BTW, when I started out I used to add skys frequently. > When there was a spactacular sky I went out and photographed > it and put the negatives away for just this purpose. > > --- > Richard Knoppow > Los Angeles, CA, USA > dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ========================================================================== > =================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.