Well I took I small volume of developer (100ml), and added a stock solution of KBr. Suprisingly development with 65 g/l was fairly quick, 2 minutes. Perhaps there is developer incorperated in Ilford MG RC, although Ilford denies it AFAIK, perhaps a accelarator? Best, Cor -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Eric Nelson Sent: Mon 05/11/2007 17:14 To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Sepia toning & Potassium Bromide & Ira B Current Just curious, how long did you have to develop the print with 64 gms of bromide added? Eric --- C.Breukel@xxxxxxx wrote: > > FYI > > Some weeks ago Richard posted below comment on the > list: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > A curiousity pointed out to me by Ryuji Suzuki is a > patent issued to Ira Current of Ansco for warm tone > developer USP 2,607,686. Current found that adding > very > large amounts of Bromide to an active developer made > sepia > toned prints cold sepia. This might be worth a try. > One of > the developer formulas in the patent is essentially > the same > as Dektol. Current added from 20 to 80 grams of > Potassium > Bromide to this. From the patent data the > development time > will be much increased, perhaps 8 minutes. See the > patent > for more data. Most of the literature will lead you > to > believe that adding Bromide will result in yellower > tones > from sulfiding toners. According to this patent this > is not > true _if enough bromide is added_. > >>>> > > > I picked up the patent, and got the impression > (perhaps wrongly) that > when you would use one of the described developers > with increasing (big > amounts) of KBr one could obtain warmtone/spia tones > out of a regulair > cold tone paper. > > I tried on Ilford MG IV RC with below developer: > > Metol 5 gr > Sodium sulfite 40 gr > HQ 6 gr > Sodium carbonate 50gr > > In 1 liter, with increasing amounts of Kbr from 25, > 45 to 64 grams per > liter. > > Therewas no change in image tone, nor were the > developing times longer > than normal. > > Re-reading the patent I think it was more wishfull > thinking on my side. > Maybe I'll re-try on Kentmere Kentona, and than tone > with a polysulphide > toner afterwards, > > Best, > > Cor > ============================================================================================================To > unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org > and logon to your account (the same e-mail address > and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and > unsubscribe from there. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.