FYI Some weeks ago Richard posted below comment on the list: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A curiousity pointed out to me by Ryuji Suzuki is a patent issued to Ira Current of Ansco for warm tone developer USP 2,607,686. Current found that adding very large amounts of Bromide to an active developer made sepia toned prints cold sepia. This might be worth a try. One of the developer formulas in the patent is essentially the same as Dektol. Current added from 20 to 80 grams of Potassium Bromide to this. From the patent data the development time will be much increased, perhaps 8 minutes. See the patent for more data. Most of the literature will lead you to believe that adding Bromide will result in yellower tones from sulfiding toners. According to this patent this is not true _if enough bromide is added_. >>>> I picked up the patent, and got the impression (perhaps wrongly) that when you would use one of the described developers with increasing (big amounts) of KBr one could obtain warmtone/spia tones out of a regulair cold tone paper. I tried on Ilford MG IV RC with below developer: Metol 5 gr Sodium sulfite 40 gr HQ 6 gr Sodium carbonate 50gr In 1 liter, with increasing amounts of Kbr from 25, 45 to 64 grams per liter. Therewas no change in image tone, nor were the developing times longer than normal. Re-reading the patent I think it was more wishfull thinking on my side. Maybe I'll re-try on Kentmere Kentona, and than tone with a polysulphide toner afterwards, Best, Cor ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.