[pure-silver] Re: Mixing My Own Fixer

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:18:14 -0700


----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Hall" <robert.g.hall@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Mixing My Own Fixer


I can buy ammonium thio from thatcher chemical here in salt lake city for about $6 a gallon. About a third the cost of commercial fix.

For a while I was seeing ilford fix come in from Spain. Now from
germany. I can't imagine what I pay for shipping.

Some have suggested adding boric acid, others suggest sulfite. Could someone comment on benefits of either and how much should be used?


The two serve different purposes. Sodium sulfite is a preservative which absorbs oxygen preferentially so that the thiosulfate does not become oxidized. It should be used in any fixer. For a plain fixer about 5 grams per liter is sufficient but a greater amount is insurance if developer is carried over. For an acid fixing bath more sulfite is necessary because without it the acid will decompose the thiosulfate. Most acid fixers have about 15 grams per liter in them. Boric acid is used as part of a buffer solution to acidify acid fixing baths. Fixers using boric acid and acetic acid in a buffer combination were originated by Kodak and the familiar F-5, which is the bases for Kodak packaged powder fixer, is very similar. Boric acid is never used on its own and should not be arbitrarily added to a fixing bath. The reason for the buffer is to maintain the pH of the fixing bath at a value that allows the alum hardener to work. It is supposed to compensate for carried over alkaline developer. When an acid stop bath is used it is probably not necessary. Sodium bisulfite is used in some fixer formulas where a lesser degree of acidity is desired. For instance Kodak F-24 is a non-hardening fixing bath that is nontheless made acid to inactivate carried over developer. Kodak offered a formula, given below, which is claimed to be low odor using Kodalk as a buffer. Any standard fixer formula specifying sodium thiosulfate can be made up as a rapid fixer by using the correct amount of ammonium thiosulfate. Ammonium thiosulfate is not very stable in dry form so is usually sold as a concentrated liquid. Sodium thiosulfate is available as both crystals and in anhydrous form. Kodak's packaged powder fixer contains anhydrous sodium thiosulfate so it you weigh the package it will be considerably less than if you are expecting the crystaline form. Note that crystaline sodium thiosulfate is extremely endothermic so very hot water is needed to dissolve it or additional heat should be applied when mixing. Anhydrous thiosulfate has little heat of solution but can be decomposed by high temperatures so the water should not exceed 90F when mixing. Here are some typical fixer formulas, thiosulfate amounts are given for the crystaline form:

Kodak F-5
Water, at 125F or 50C                     600.0 ml
Sodium thiosulfate, crystaline            240.0 grams
Sodium sulfite, desiccated                 15.0 grams
Acetic acid, 28%                           48.0 ml
Boric acid, crystaline                      7.5 grams
Potassium aluminum sulfate (Alum)          15.0 grams
Water to make                               1.0 liter

Beside acting as a buffer the boric acid bath is supposed to produce less scumming of negatives than fixing baths without it.

Kodak F-6 (Low Odor)
Water, at 125F or 50C                    600.0 ml
Sodium sulfite, desiccated                15.0 grams
Acetic acid, 28%                          48.0 ml
Sodium metaborate                         15.0 grams
Potassium aluminum sulfate (alum)         15.0 grams
Water to make                              1.0 liter

Kodak F-24 Non-hardening Fixing Bath
Water, at 125F or 50C                    500.0 ml
Sodium thiosulfate                       240.0 ml
Sodium sulfite, desiccated                10.0 grams
Sodium bisulfite                          25.0 grams
Water to make                              1.0 liter

Note that the sodium bisulfite of commerce is usually sodium metabisulfite and it is the latter chemical that is actually specified in most Kodak formulae calling for bisulfite.

For comparison the standard AGFA/Ansco fixing bath is AGFA 201. If you adjust the amounts to standardize for 1 liter of solution (the formula results in 1.5 liter) it is virtually identical to Kodak F-5 minus the boric acid. AGFA also has a formula for a non-hardening bath which specifies potassium metabisulfite in place of the sodium bisulfite in the Kodak F-24 formula. The results are identical.

In addition to these there are also formulas for baths employing chrome alum (potassium chromium sulfate). Chrome alum is a much more effective hardener than white alum but must also operate at much lower pH. It also has a tendency to leave a green stain so was mostly used for negatives. I don't think there are many applications for it these days.

There are other variations, such as a thiocyanate fixer given by Defender, but the above are pretty much the practical ones.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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