The simplest way to deal with the oxidation is 1/2 way thru the process, dump the developer and add a fresh batch. Been sounding like nitrogen works here on the list, but until someone wants to drag one of those babys up to the 3rd floor here, I'll continue with my 2-step pyro for those times I use it. eric --- Bob Adler <rgacpa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Rob, > > I have a CPP2. Currently I use it only for E6 > processing where temperature control is critical. I > plan on using it for BW processing as soon as I test > another film/developer combo that is not a pyro > developer. Too much risk of pyro being oxidized too > quickly with constant agitation. > You are correct that the temp control is excellent > on the JOBO. This is also important for consistency > with BW processing if you are into Zone or BTZ > systems. Additionally, the automatic agitation with > the JOBO can reduce your muscle strain over a manual > roller process. > > ALT-1500's tend to go for $1,300 - $1,800 on ebay. > I've been watching... With the ALT machines from > JOBO my understanding is that it is imperative to > have a water panel to control > temperature/filtration/dioinization. With the CPP2 > you don't HAVE to have a water panel, but I do and > it really helps. > > Best of luck, > Bob > > Rob C <forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have been looking at the possibility of a jobo > processor and the CPP looks best but: > I don't really have room for it at the moment and it > seems like you need to pour chemicals and empty/tip > it so what is the real benefit over using just a > roller base and hand rotating? Obviously the > temperature control looks like it is the main > benefit but after that I'm not sure about how much > benefit their is. > An ATL-1500 on the other hand, is fully automatic > although it doesn't take expert drums. Problem is > that the ATL-1500 is expensive!!! £2800 new. > > For now I have ordered a roller base to see how I > get on with that. If it turns out to be a real pain > to use, would a cpp processor really make things > much easier. > > thanks > > > ============================================================================================================To > unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org > and logon to your account (the same e-mail address > and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and > unsubscribe from there. > > > > Bob Adler > Palo Alto, CA > http://www.raflexions.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.