[pure-silver] Re: Emulsion Peel-off and more questions

  • From: Snoopy <snoopy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 11:43:44 +0100

Hi Pablo,

welcome :-)

I am wondering why you want to peel off the emulsion off paper ? To
reuse it to coat canvas or similar ?

You can get "liquid emulsion" which you can use for that.

Also peeing papers is a bit ricky because I think (i am not sure about
Baryt/fiber papers) hat for papers the emulsion is also actually
"layered" with an accelerator/devloper layer on top - at least for RC
papers so that they devlop faster like in machines.

So peeling it off you need to be very skillful in roder not to upset the
order of the emulsion lyers.

I might well be wrong in that the developer/accelerator (as AGFA used to
call it) is actually dispersed within the emulsion, btu I always thought
it was on top.

B/W Film emulsion will peel off if you leave it in water for a while,
but you might then get some of the anti-halation dye with it. So you
should rinse beforehand and then do the "peeling off" rinse.

Of course modern b/w films are also multi-layer so a similar caveat like
above applies.

Just a thought or two.

Love,
Snoopy

On 12.11.2014 05:57, Pablo Kolodny wrote:
> Hi all, I know I'm rather a lurker here and actually and honestly I don't do 
> much email lists anymore but this time some questions assaulted me at the 
> time of setting up up my new workspace, a nice tiny not so untidy gallery 
> plus a nice tidy darkroom. So here I go:
> 
> First is what about peeling silver paper emulsion off, which route to go 
> better through, RC of fiber ? 
> One of most beautiful things I had the chance to dig up is my three vintage 
> wooden made cameras. A 12x18, a 18x24 and a 24x30. All of them with backs and 
> in pretty good working order though the 12x18 looks a bit beaten. 
> 
> What I mostly do is platinum/palladium prints so thought to use those cameras 
> as a source for my negs.
> Big issue is that film that size is not hard to get here in Argentina but 
> just impossible. Then the idea of peeling off. 
> 
> If this is too tricky, my hands got clumsier now, or for any reason this 
> won't work I'd still like to use silver paper as a negative, then scan and 
> make digital negs which I already make since a while with kinda success. 
> Another choice would be to go for X ray film though I don't have the 
> slightest idea about its speed nor how to process but both would hopefully be 
> easy to learn I guess. 
> 
> So what would you suggest I better start with ? 
> Any help will strongly be thanked. 
> 
> cheers
> 
> Pablo
> 
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