Ok after my account of my first disastrous attempts with the tetenal (aka durst filmetta) film processor its probably a good idea to give you a more sober assessment. My choice was between this piece of kit and a well used ATL 1000 with some of its drums missing. In contrast to the ATL this machine does not need to be plumbed into the wall and programing it seems relatively straight forward. It was also half the price. I partially disassembled the machine, and found out that the source of my problems was a safety system inside whereby as liquids are pumped out of the machine they pass out of a spout into a cup before entering the respective drain hoses. In my case I had led the drain hoses around the back of the machine to the sink and one or more of them had been raised higher than the rim of this cup and had overflowed internally into the machine base and had drained off through there. I've rum four runs of plain water through the machine with no leakage problems since. On another note I reexamined the agfa 40 super 8 film and in fact there are some sections with positive black and white images so my conclusion was a bit hasty there, and I should amend it to "there is a possibility that AGFA 40 can be processed in BW reversal chemistry" Due to the interrupted sequence of work with the machine I cannot be specific on times or temperatures. Once more thanks to all for the advice. All the best Larry Cuffe p.s. I now have an in date E6 kit (500ml for ~= $25) and will try it out over the weekend on fresh current E6 type emulsions and see how we do:- but as this time I expect more than just BW images it will probably be off topic for this list. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.