Man, this thread is making me feel old!! When I hear people asking what hex is and about "studying" it in school, I think about the days when we had to be able to read it in memory dumps and perform math against it to calculate offsets for program instructions. :) And then there were the old HP 3000 machines which used octal in their dumps. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:39 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: what is Hex? Close, Hex (hexadecimal) is base 16 and it is used because of the architecture of computers where a byte is made up of 8 bits. Rather than represent the position of 1s and 0s as an 8 bit binary number you can represent the contents of the byte with a Hexadecimal number. Octal (base 8) was and is sometimes also used to represent the upper or lower nibble of a byte or the value of a 4 bit register. Hope this informs. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valiant (on laptop)" <valiant@xxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Re: what is Hex? > Hi. > I didn't see anyone mention this part about hex. > Hex is just another number scale like the standard one 0 to 9 or the > binary one 0 to 1. Hex is 0 to f I think, making it bass 16, where the one > we use every day 0 to 9 is bass 10 and binary is bass, hmm, someone help? > 0 to 1? The possible digits in hex are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, a, b, c, > d, e, f > can't remember if hex starts with 0. It lets you have larger numbers > without taking up as much space. MAC addresses on networking equipment use > it. > some of that could be wrong, it's been two whole years since I had to > study that, here. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:03 PM > Subject: RE: what is Hex? > > > 21, but yes he is, Thanks Chris > > Take care, > Sina > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão > de Sousa > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 12:12 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: what is Hex? > > Are you serious about Sina being 22 years old only? Man I have seen people > who have studied computers for many more than this quantity of years and > don't seen to know a half of what Sina knows easily ... > Marlon > > 2008/2/15, Chris Hofstader <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>: >> God Sina, you bring back memories of Z80 and needing to "poke" >> instructions and data into memory before execution. I would have >> thought you, who was born in 1986 would never had to get to that >> level. Personally, I think it's a really valuable exercise even if >> one never actually needs to use it in a "real" program just to get a > better understanding of what a processor "sees" >> and how base 16 numbers can be turned into both instructions and data >> depending upon how the processor looks at them. >> >> In the network edition of "Bank Street Writer" a word processing >> program written entirely in assembly, that was pretty popular in the >> years before you learned to talk, I added a function called, >> "DON'T_CALL_THIS." If you did call it the program would crash as the >> instructions looked random. If, however, you looked at the last >> handful of bytes of the program as ASCII, it read "FSMITHISAWORM." >> Frank Smith, a really great guy, was the client on the gig and we >> decided to immortalize him in an Easter Egg that only an ubergeek could > find. >> >> Now, just for shits and giggles, try to reconstruct the function in >> 80x86 assembly and receive the truly wasted chunk of time award. >> >> cdh >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina >> Bahram >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:28 PM >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: RE: what is Hex? >> >> *smile*, wlel actually, if you really want to get down to it ... it can > be. >> >> Assembler compiles down to executable instructions to the processor, >> which are most often and most easily read in hex. >> >> I used to know almost all of the 8086 instructions and some of their >> hex equivalents a while back. It's really useful when analysing >> exploit and virus code. >> >> Take care, >> Sina >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:47 PM >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: re: what is Hex? >> >> Right, but it almost sounds like some sort of programming language. >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Date sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:27:12 -0800 >> >Subject: re: what is Hex? >> >> >Hi Alex, >> >It's a shortened form of hexadecimal. >> >Cheers, >> >Joseph >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: Alex Hall <mehgcap@xxxxxxx >> >>To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>Date sent: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:18:21 -0500 >> >>Subject: what is Hex? >> >> >>Hi all >> >>Whatis this Hex that has been talked about >> >recently? >> >> >>Have a great day, >> >>Alex >> >>__________ >> >>View the list's information and change your >> >settings at >> >>//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblin >> >d >> >> >__________ >> >View the list's information and change your settings at >> >//www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> >> >> __________ NOD32 2878 (20080215) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> > > > -- > When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just stare > at > you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." > Linus Torvalds > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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