Re: getting critical
- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:53:17 -0500
Hey there Ty -- *waving*
one of these days I'll get around to reading some of the email I am shelving
for the time being...
Happy hacking.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical
I'm not quite sure how this pertains to her question. Hell, just encrypt
your whole drive with truecrypt or something if it's an issue, or use
something known and tested for encryption, but I don't think this was the
orig question, she just wants to keep flagged messages like "important"
together so that the flags transition.
I've been keeping an eye on this thread, as I too have to make the lovely
transition from xp to seven and apparently thunderbird. So thanks for asking
the question I haven't bothered/had time to get to yet, laura. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: getting critical
> If you want to keep references from emails, I'd recommend saving them
> first
> and then if they contain sensitive data such as registration information,
> encrypt them on your local drive using a tool like AxCrypt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:59 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: getting critical
>
> Hi Don -- Thanks for your informative reply.
> I have one question about thunderbird: When you convert the dbx databases
> to
>
> whatever mailboxes thunderbird uses, does it somehow carry over the flag
> on
> the flagged or marked messages? I have some rather large mailboxes with a
> few dozen marked messages in them that contain info that I want to keep.
> If
>
> translating the mailbox removes the marks, I will have to go and gather
> all
> the marked messages from all the mailboxes into one central dump of
> messages, which would be hard to sort through.
> (Or I could make 50 "mark" folders for all the marked messages in each of
> the 50 mailboxes... -- but that would be ridiculous. I'd rather have a
> central dump.)
>
> Right now I'm leaning toward thunderbird.
> One other consideration is the address book -- what kind of contact list
> or
> address book does thunderbird use? Does it share info with wlmail's
> contacts? I assume if it is in a proprietary format, it would have a way
> of
>
> importing and exporting to other formats, does it?
>
> Oh well. What we need is a universal mailer, like the star trek universal
> translator...*smile* I just had occasion to send someone an email in
> Klingon the other day...
> Now we're really off topic.
> Happy hacking.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: getting critical
>
>
> I am currently in the process of converting mail systems too. I am
> converting from being trapped in Windows Live Mail using all POP3 and
> local
> folders and separate inboxes and mail rules for each mailing list to
> Thunderbird using Tags and IMAP
>
> I am converting for several reasons. I thought my biggest reason was I
> was
> fighting with accessibility issues with JAWS. Windows Live Mail just did
> not work well with JAWS 11! I managed for about the last year using JAWS
> 10, which worked slightly better. Over the last year, Freedom Scientific
> has slowly and surely improving accessibility with this application. The
> latest release finally solves almost all of the issues and JAWS 11 now
> works
> well with Windows Live Mail.
>
> Your last statement regarding your concern about locking in your messages
> into one mail system hits home and has worried me for a long time! That
> is
> another large factor for wanting to switch to Thunderbird. It stores its
> messages in plain text that can be imported or opened easily.
> Additionally,
> I want to read my email in Vinux as well. Thunderbird is multi-platform
> and
> is available and works the same in both environments.
>
> A final limitation of Windows Live Mail is pushing me to switch. As part
> of
> developing in the Ubuntu community, I now occasionly get secure email
> using
> Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) encryttionn and electronic signatures. Windows
> Live
> Mail is not capable of reading these emails. Thunderbird works well with
> these features by installing a plug in.
>
> As I am converting. I want to transition from storing my important
> messages
> locally to keeping them on the mail server. First, I switched as many
> accounts as I could, like gmail, from POP3 to IMAP. POP3 downloads all
> email to your computer and the mail is handled locally. Normally it is
> deleted from the server once downloaded. IMAP synchronizes some of the
> folders, like Inbox, on your computer and the server. This allows you to
> read mail from different computers phones, or other devices. On accounts
> that do not support IMAP, I set POP3 not to delete the files on the
> serverr
> when downloaded. This way, the messages remain on the server until you
> delete the message. This is not perfect, but this is a workable solution
> for rreading email from different devices.
>
> Strangely, live.com and hotmail.com mail support IMAP only within Windows
> Live mail. For some reason, Microsoft has it's own interface and protocol
> here so it can not provide IMAP functionality to any other email client!
> I
> hear they might change that soon. Until then, you must use POP3 to read
> email from these accounts for the time being.
>
> To download Thunderbird, visit:
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html
>
> or
> http://GetThunderbird.com
>
> Jamal has some JAWS Scripts for Thunderbird to add functionality and
> efficiency to Thunderbird. Many people say Thunderbird is completely
> accessible by itself and do not install the scrippts. I need the added
> efficiency and installed his scripts. the latest version can be
> downloaded
> with:
> http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr.exe
>
> I am still tweeking the settings to improve the way I read mail. If you
> install the scripts, there is a great help file that is always available
> in
> Thunderbird with Insert + h. It also comes up after installing the
> scripts.
> There are also at least two podcast on Blind Cool Tech to help set up
> Thunderbird.
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/blindcooltech
>
> I am still determining the best way to transfer / convert my stored
> messages. There is no direct export / import path available. I may need
> to
> first export to Outlook so I can import into Thunderbird. I only have
> Outlook 2002 installed, which I never use. This will not be a problem
> coming from Outlook Express, because there is an import in Thunderbird
> directly from your active Outlook Express installation.
>
> I am experimenting with gmail Tags rather than local storage folders. If
> anyone has ideas how to do this or manage archiving on a server with tags,
> let me know.
>
> Don Marang
>
> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
> real
> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
> working
> on things that matter.
> Dean Kamen
>
>
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> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM
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> Subject: getting critical
>
>> ... as in serious, not as in criticism...*smile*
>>
>> Hi all --
>> I absolutely have to get off my old system permanently, which includes
>> moving a good number of mail folders to a new machine.
>> My XP box has been flaky for some months, and now is down to a paltry 9GB
>> on
>> the hard drive.
>> That with loads of stuff like mp3s offloaded onto an external drive.
>>
>> I have used outlook express forever (since getting onto windows) -- now I
>> need to choose between either thunderbird or live mail or whatever else.
>>
>> So could someone tell me which is more accessible? And which can convert
>> OE
>> .dbx mailboxes to whatever other internal format it uses? And is there a
>> mail client that saves mail in a common format that wouldn't depend on
>> just
>> one program?
>>
>> Pushing things off thill the last minute... not a good idea. I have got
>> my
>> windows7 box ready except for antivirus and mail client. I need
>> recommendations.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I am uninstalling and deleting programs right and left so this
>> old box will run. Then if it does, maybe I can procrastinate a little
>> longer.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --le
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