Re: getting critical

oh, that number is what is currently sitting in my inbox, there are something along your numbers on the hard drive, I extract them as .eml files and into a folder in my documents in mass with DBExtract from jfw lite


have to find something similar for when I go to win 7, I hope!

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----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


I better not mention mine -- closer to 7500 in my inbox -- too many lists,
and I am cutting them down, but no time for all that.
I like the ability to easily do searches on the whole list; feel like I
might delete something if I blow it away...hmm...lottery ticket...just
kidding...
but perhas something useful that could answer either mine or someone else's
question.
But there is no excuse -- there are list archives to look at out there. But
it's easier to fire off a search on my own data--no waiting for a
connection. No wonder my disks are wearing out...I just threw one out that
developed a bad sector.
Happy mailing.
--le

----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


75? try 750, I usually try to clean out the "leavings" when they hit 1000
LOL,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


I seem to suffer from the "wow, this is interesting..." problem too. End
result, I end up with a huge amount of email to be read later, and a month
later when I'm tired of seeing 75 emails, I go through and hit the delete
key. :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


Hey there Ty -- *waving*
one of these days I'll get around to reading some of the email I am
shelving
for the time being...
Happy hacking.
--le

----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


I'm not quite sure how this pertains to her question. Hell, just encrypt
your whole drive with truecrypt or something if it's an issue, or use
something known and tested for encryption, but I don't think this was the
orig question, she just wants to keep flagged messages like "important"
together so that the flags transition.
I've been keeping an eye on this thread, as I too have to make the lovely
transition from xp to seven and apparently thunderbird. So thanks for
asking
the question I haven't bothered/had time to get to yet, laura. :)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: getting critical


If you want to keep references from emails, I'd recommend saving them
first
and then if they contain sensitive data such as registration
information,
encrypt them on your local drive using a tool like AxCrypt.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting critical

Hi Don -- Thanks for your informative reply.
I have one question about thunderbird: When you convert the dbx
databases
to

whatever mailboxes thunderbird uses, does it somehow carry over the flag
on
the flagged or marked messages? I have some rather large mailboxes with
a
few dozen marked messages in them that contain info that I want to keep.
If

translating the mailbox removes the marks, I will have to go and gather
all
the marked messages from all the mailboxes into one central dump of
messages, which would be hard to sort through.
(Or I could make 50 "mark" folders for all the marked messages in each
of
the 50 mailboxes... -- but that would be ridiculous.  I'd rather have a
central dump.)

Right now I'm leaning toward thunderbird.
One other consideration is the address book -- what kind of contact list
or
address book does thunderbird use? Does it share info with wlmail's
contacts?  I assume if it is in a proprietary format, it would have a
way
of

importing and exporting to other formats, does it?

Oh well.  What we need is a universal mailer, like the star trek
universal
translator...*smile*  I just had occasion to send someone an email in
Klingon the other day...
Now we're really off topic.
Happy hacking.
--le

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical


I am currently in the process of converting mail systems too.  I am
converting from being trapped in Windows Live Mail using all POP3 and
local
folders and separate inboxes and mail rules for each mailing list to
Thunderbird using Tags and IMAP

I am converting for several reasons.  I thought my biggest reason was I
was
fighting with accessibility issues with JAWS.  Windows Live Mail just
did
not work well with JAWS 11!  I managed for about the last year using
JAWS
10, which worked slightly better.  Over the last year, Freedom
Scientific
has slowly and surely improving accessibility with this application.
The
latest release finally solves almost all of the issues and JAWS 11 now
works
well with Windows Live Mail.

Your last statement regarding your concern about locking in your
messages
into one mail system hits home and has worried me for a long time! That
is
another large factor for wanting to switch to Thunderbird.  It stores
its
messages in plain text that can be imported or opened easily.
Additionally,
I want to read my email in Vinux as well. Thunderbird is multi-platform
and
is available and works the same in both environments.

A final limitation of Windows Live Mail is pushing me to switch.  As
part
of
developing in the Ubuntu community, I now occasionly get secure email
using
Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) encryttionn and electronic signatures.  Windows
Live
Mail is not capable of reading these emails.  Thunderbird works well
with
these features by installing a plug in.

As I am converting. I want to transition from storing my important
messages
locally to keeping them on the mail server.  First, I switched as many
accounts as I could, like gmail, from POP3 to IMAP.  POP3 downloads all
email to your computer and the mail is handled locally.  Normally it is
deleted from the server once downloaded.  IMAP synchronizes some of the
folders, like Inbox, on your computer and the server.  This allows you
to
read mail from different computers phones, or other devices.  On
accounts
that do not support IMAP, I set POP3 not to delete the files on the
serverr
when downloaded.  This way, the messages remain on the server until you
delete the message.  This is not perfect, but this is a workable
solution
for rreading email from different devices.

Strangely, live.com and hotmail.com  mail support IMAP only within
Windows
Live mail.  For some reason, Microsoft has it's own interface and
protocol
here so it can not provide IMAP functionality to any other email client!
I
hear they might change that soon. Until then, you must use POP3 to read
email from these accounts for the time being.

To download Thunderbird, visit:
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html

or
http://GetThunderbird.com

Jamal has some JAWS Scripts for Thunderbird to add functionality and
efficiency to Thunderbird.  Many people say Thunderbird is completely
accessible by itself and do not install the scrippts.  I need the added
efficiency and installed his scripts.  the latest version can be
downloaded
with:
http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr.exe

I am still tweeking the settings to improve the way I read mail. If you install the scripts, there is a great help file that is always available
in
Thunderbird with Insert + h.  It also comes up after installing the
scripts.
There are also at least two podcast on Blind Cool Tech to help set up
Thunderbird.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/blindcooltech

I am still determining the best way to transfer / convert my stored
messages.  There is no direct export / import path available.  I may
need
to
first export to Outlook so I can import into Thunderbird.  I only have
Outlook 2002 installed, which I never use.  This  will not be a problem
coming from Outlook Express, because there is an import in Thunderbird
directly from your active Outlook Express installation.

I am experimenting with gmail Tags rather than local storage folders.
If
anyone has ideas how to do this or manage archiving on a server with
tags,
let me know.

Don Marang

There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
real
substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
working
on things that matter.
Dean Kamen


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From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM
To: "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "NFBnet NFBCS
Mailing
List" <nfbcs@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Multiple recipients of NFBnet GUI-TALK
Mailing
List" <gui-talk@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: getting critical

... as in serious, not as in criticism...*smile*

Hi all --
I absolutely have to get off my old system permanently, which includes
moving a good number of mail folders to a new machine.
My XP box has been flaky for some months, and now is down to a paltry
9GB
on
the hard drive.
That with loads of stuff like mp3s offloaded onto an external drive.

I have used outlook express forever (since getting onto windows) -- now
I
need to choose between either thunderbird or live mail or whatever
else.

So could someone tell me which is more accessible? And which can
convert
OE
.dbx mailboxes to whatever other internal format it uses? And is there
a
mail client that saves mail in a common format that wouldn't depend on
just
one program?

Pushing things off thill the last minute... not a good idea.  I have
got
my
windows7 box ready except for antivirus and mail client.  I need
recommendations.

Meanwhile, I am uninstalling and deleting programs right and left so
this
old box will run.  Then if it does, maybe I can procrastinate a little
longer.

Thanks in advance.
--le

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