Re: getting critical
- From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 19:12:32 -0500
I better not mention mine -- closer to 7500 in my inbox -- too many lists,
and I am cutting them down, but no time for all that.
I like the ability to easily do searches on the whole list; feel like I
might delete something if I blow it away...hmm...lottery ticket...just
kidding...
but perhas something useful that could answer either mine or someone else's
question.
But there is no excuse -- there are list archives to look at out there. But
it's easier to fire off a search on my own data--no waiting for a
connection. No wonder my disks are wearing out...I just threw one out that
developed a bad sector.
Happy mailing.
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical
75? try 750, I usually try to clean out the "leavings" when they hit 1000
LOL,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: getting critical
>I seem to suffer from the "wow, this is interesting..." problem too. End
>result, I end up with a huge amount of email to be read later, and a month
>later when I'm tired of seeing 75 emails, I go through and hit the delete
>key. :)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:53 PM
> Subject: Re: getting critical
>
>
>> Hey there Ty -- *waving*
>> one of these days I'll get around to reading some of the email I am
>> shelving
>> for the time being...
>> Happy hacking.
>> --le
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: getting critical
>>
>>
>> I'm not quite sure how this pertains to her question. Hell, just encrypt
>> your whole drive with truecrypt or something if it's an issue, or use
>> something known and tested for encryption, but I don't think this was the
>> orig question, she just wants to keep flagged messages like "important"
>> together so that the flags transition.
>> I've been keeping an eye on this thread, as I too have to make the lovely
>> transition from xp to seven and apparently thunderbird. So thanks for
>> asking
>> the question I haven't bothered/had time to get to yet, laura. :)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:49 PM
>> Subject: RE: getting critical
>>
>>
>>> If you want to keep references from emails, I'd recommend saving them
>>> first
>>> and then if they contain sensitive data such as registration
>>> information,
>>> encrypt them on your local drive using a tool like AxCrypt.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:59 PM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: getting critical
>>>
>>> Hi Don -- Thanks for your informative reply.
>>> I have one question about thunderbird: When you convert the dbx
>>> databases
>>> to
>>>
>>> whatever mailboxes thunderbird uses, does it somehow carry over the flag
>>> on
>>> the flagged or marked messages? I have some rather large mailboxes with
>>> a
>>> few dozen marked messages in them that contain info that I want to keep.
>>> If
>>>
>>> translating the mailbox removes the marks, I will have to go and gather
>>> all
>>> the marked messages from all the mailboxes into one central dump of
>>> messages, which would be hard to sort through.
>>> (Or I could make 50 "mark" folders for all the marked messages in each
>>> of
>>> the 50 mailboxes... -- but that would be ridiculous. I'd rather have a
>>> central dump.)
>>>
>>> Right now I'm leaning toward thunderbird.
>>> One other consideration is the address book -- what kind of contact list
>>> or
>>> address book does thunderbird use? Does it share info with wlmail's
>>> contacts? I assume if it is in a proprietary format, it would have a
>>> way
>>> of
>>>
>>> importing and exporting to other formats, does it?
>>>
>>> Oh well. What we need is a universal mailer, like the star trek
>>> universal
>>> translator...*smile* I just had occasion to send someone an email in
>>> Klingon the other day...
>>> Now we're really off topic.
>>> Happy hacking.
>>> --le
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: getting critical
>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently in the process of converting mail systems too. I am
>>> converting from being trapped in Windows Live Mail using all POP3 and
>>> local
>>> folders and separate inboxes and mail rules for each mailing list to
>>> Thunderbird using Tags and IMAP
>>>
>>> I am converting for several reasons. I thought my biggest reason was I
>>> was
>>> fighting with accessibility issues with JAWS. Windows Live Mail just
>>> did
>>> not work well with JAWS 11! I managed for about the last year using
>>> JAWS
>>> 10, which worked slightly better. Over the last year, Freedom
>>> Scientific
>>> has slowly and surely improving accessibility with this application.
>>> The
>>> latest release finally solves almost all of the issues and JAWS 11 now
>>> works
>>> well with Windows Live Mail.
>>>
>>> Your last statement regarding your concern about locking in your
>>> messages
>>> into one mail system hits home and has worried me for a long time! That
>>> is
>>> another large factor for wanting to switch to Thunderbird. It stores
>>> its
>>> messages in plain text that can be imported or opened easily.
>>> Additionally,
>>> I want to read my email in Vinux as well. Thunderbird is multi-platform
>>> and
>>> is available and works the same in both environments.
>>>
>>> A final limitation of Windows Live Mail is pushing me to switch. As
>>> part
>>> of
>>> developing in the Ubuntu community, I now occasionly get secure email
>>> using
>>> Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) encryttionn and electronic signatures. Windows
>>> Live
>>> Mail is not capable of reading these emails. Thunderbird works well
>>> with
>>> these features by installing a plug in.
>>>
>>> As I am converting. I want to transition from storing my important
>>> messages
>>> locally to keeping them on the mail server. First, I switched as many
>>> accounts as I could, like gmail, from POP3 to IMAP. POP3 downloads all
>>> email to your computer and the mail is handled locally. Normally it is
>>> deleted from the server once downloaded. IMAP synchronizes some of the
>>> folders, like Inbox, on your computer and the server. This allows you
>>> to
>>> read mail from different computers phones, or other devices. On
>>> accounts
>>> that do not support IMAP, I set POP3 not to delete the files on the
>>> serverr
>>> when downloaded. This way, the messages remain on the server until you
>>> delete the message. This is not perfect, but this is a workable
>>> solution
>>> for rreading email from different devices.
>>>
>>> Strangely, live.com and hotmail.com mail support IMAP only within
>>> Windows
>>> Live mail. For some reason, Microsoft has it's own interface and
>>> protocol
>>> here so it can not provide IMAP functionality to any other email client!
>>> I
>>> hear they might change that soon. Until then, you must use POP3 to read
>>> email from these accounts for the time being.
>>>
>>> To download Thunderbird, visit:
>>> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html
>>>
>>> or
>>> http://GetThunderbird.com
>>>
>>> Jamal has some JAWS Scripts for Thunderbird to add functionality and
>>> efficiency to Thunderbird. Many people say Thunderbird is completely
>>> accessible by itself and do not install the scrippts. I need the added
>>> efficiency and installed his scripts. the latest version can be
>>> downloaded
>>> with:
>>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr.exe
>>>
>>> I am still tweeking the settings to improve the way I read mail. If you
>>> install the scripts, there is a great help file that is always available
>>> in
>>> Thunderbird with Insert + h. It also comes up after installing the
>>> scripts.
>>> There are also at least two podcast on Blind Cool Tech to help set up
>>> Thunderbird.
>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/blindcooltech
>>>
>>> I am still determining the best way to transfer / convert my stored
>>> messages. There is no direct export / import path available. I may
>>> need
>>> to
>>> first export to Outlook so I can import into Thunderbird. I only have
>>> Outlook 2002 installed, which I never use. This will not be a problem
>>> coming from Outlook Express, because there is an import in Thunderbird
>>> directly from your active Outlook Express installation.
>>>
>>> I am experimenting with gmail Tags rather than local storage folders.
>>> If
>>> anyone has ideas how to do this or manage archiving on a server with
>>> tags,
>>> let me know.
>>>
>>> Don Marang
>>>
>>> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
>>> real
>>> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
>>> working
>>> on things that matter.
>>> Dean Kamen
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM
>>> To: "bprogramming" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "NFBnet NFBCS
>>> Mailing
>>> List" <nfbcs@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Multiple recipients of NFBnet GUI-TALK
>>> Mailing
>>> List" <gui-talk@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: getting critical
>>>
>>>> ... as in serious, not as in criticism...*smile*
>>>>
>>>> Hi all --
>>>> I absolutely have to get off my old system permanently, which includes
>>>> moving a good number of mail folders to a new machine.
>>>> My XP box has been flaky for some months, and now is down to a paltry
>>>> 9GB
>>>> on
>>>> the hard drive.
>>>> That with loads of stuff like mp3s offloaded onto an external drive.
>>>>
>>>> I have used outlook express forever (since getting onto windows) -- now
>>>> I
>>>> need to choose between either thunderbird or live mail or whatever
>>>> else.
>>>>
>>>> So could someone tell me which is more accessible? And which can
>>>> convert
>>>> OE
>>>> .dbx mailboxes to whatever other internal format it uses? And is there
>>>> a
>>>> mail client that saves mail in a common format that wouldn't depend on
>>>> just
>>>> one program?
>>>>
>>>> Pushing things off thill the last minute... not a good idea. I have
>>>> got
>>>> my
>>>> windows7 box ready except for antivirus and mail client. I need
>>>> recommendations.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, I am uninstalling and deleting programs right and left so
>>>> this
>>>> old box will run. Then if it does, maybe I can procrastinate a little
>>>> longer.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> --le
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