RE: getting critical
- From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 00:00:26 -0400
I know it is. I sure do admire her for it.
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Tyler
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:53 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: getting critical
That's amazing!
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From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: getting critical
> Well, I'll tell you that my roommate's boyfriend works for google, but I'm
> not sure if he's the gmail guy.
>
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> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: getting critical
>
> Yes, this is why I don't like the idea of using gmail's server to store my
> email. Who knows who all has access, or could get access...? I had
> enough
> trouble just recovering a password. It asked me security questions that I
> don't like putting out there, if for no other reason, it is personal. But
> they tend to ask specific questions that are the same as what's on other
> sites with passwords, which makes it possible to take over my identity.
> I know only the google admins can look at that stuff, but who knows about
> the google admins?
> Anyway, for the time being I have my copies.
> --le
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Katherine moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 9:49 PM
> Subject: RE: getting critical
>
>
> If you want to keep references from emails, I'd recommend saving them
> first
> and then if they contain sensitive data such as registration information,
> encrypt them on your local drive using a tool like AxCrypt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:59 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: getting critical
>
> Hi Don -- Thanks for your informative reply.
> I have one question about thunderbird: When you convert the dbx databases
> to
>
> whatever mailboxes thunderbird uses, does it somehow carry over the flag
> on
> the flagged or marked messages? I have some rather large mailboxes with a
> few dozen marked messages in them that contain info that I want to keep.
> If
>
> translating the mailbox removes the marks, I will have to go and gather
> all
> the marked messages from all the mailboxes into one central dump of
> messages, which would be hard to sort through.
> (Or I could make 50 "mark" folders for all the marked messages in each of
> the 50 mailboxes... -- but that would be ridiculous. I'd rather have a
> central dump.)
>
> Right now I'm leaning toward thunderbird.
> One other consideration is the address book -- what kind of contact list
> or
> address book does thunderbird use? Does it share info with wlmail's
> contacts? I assume if it is in a proprietary format, it would have a way
> of
>
> importing and exporting to other formats, does it?
>
> Oh well. What we need is a universal mailer, like the star trek universal
> translator...*smile* I just had occasion to send someone an email in
> Klingon the other day...
> Now we're really off topic.
> Happy hacking.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: getting critical
>
>
> I am currently in the process of converting mail systems too. I am
> converting from being trapped in Windows Live Mail using all POP3 and
> local
> folders and separate inboxes and mail rules for each mailing list to
> Thunderbird using Tags and IMAP
>
> I am converting for several reasons. I thought my biggest reason was I
> was
> fighting with accessibility issues with JAWS. Windows Live Mail just did
> not work well with JAWS 11! I managed for about the last year using JAWS
> 10, which worked slightly better. Over the last year, Freedom Scientific
> has slowly and surely improving accessibility with this application. The
> latest release finally solves almost all of the issues and JAWS 11 now
> works
> well with Windows Live Mail.
>
> Your last statement regarding your concern about locking in your messages
> into one mail system hits home and has worried me for a long time! That
> is
> another large factor for wanting to switch to Thunderbird. It stores its
> messages in plain text that can be imported or opened easily.
> Additionally,
> I want to read my email in Vinux as well. Thunderbird is multi-platform
> and
> is available and works the same in both environments.
>
> A final limitation of Windows Live Mail is pushing me to switch. As part
> of
> developing in the Ubuntu community, I now occasionly get secure email
> using
> Gnu Privacy Guard (GPG) encryttionn and electronic signatures. Windows
> Live
> Mail is not capable of reading these emails. Thunderbird works well with
> these features by installing a plug in.
>
> As I am converting. I want to transition from storing my important
> messages
> locally to keeping them on the mail server. First, I switched as many
> accounts as I could, like gmail, from POP3 to IMAP. POP3 downloads all
> email to your computer and the mail is handled locally. Normally it is
> deleted from the server once downloaded. IMAP synchronizes some of the
> folders, like Inbox, on your computer and the server. This allows you to
> read mail from different computers phones, or other devices. On accounts
> that do not support IMAP, I set POP3 not to delete the files on the
> serverr
> when downloaded. This way, the messages remain on the server until you
> delete the message. This is not perfect, but this is a workable solution
> for rreading email from different devices.
>
> Strangely, live.com and hotmail.com mail support IMAP only within Windows
> Live mail. For some reason, Microsoft has it's own interface and protocol
> here so it can not provide IMAP functionality to any other email client!
> I
> hear they might change that soon. Until then, you must use POP3 to read
> email from these accounts for the time being.
>
> To download Thunderbird, visit:
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html
>
> or
> http://GetThunderbird.com
>
> Jamal has some JAWS Scripts for Thunderbird to add functionality and
> efficiency to Thunderbird. Many people say Thunderbird is completely
> accessible by itself and do not install the scrippts. I need the added
> efficiency and installed his scripts. the latest version can be
> downloaded
> with:
> http://EmpowermentZone.com/tb_scr.exe
>
> I am still tweeking the settings to improve the way I read mail. If you
> install the scripts, there is a great help file that is always available
> in
> Thunderbird with Insert + h. It also comes up after installing the
> scripts.
> There are also at least two podcast on Blind Cool Tech to help set up
> Thunderbird.
> http://feeds.feedburner.com/blindcooltech
>
> I am still determining the best way to transfer / convert my stored
> messages. There is no direct export / import path available. I may need
> to
> first export to Outlook so I can import into Thunderbird. I only have
> Outlook 2002 installed, which I never use. This will not be a problem
> coming from Outlook Express, because there is an import in Thunderbird
> directly from your active Outlook Express installation.
>
> I am experimenting with gmail Tags rather than local storage folders. If
> anyone has ideas how to do this or manage archiving on a server with tags,
> let me know.
>
> Don Marang
>
> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
> real
> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
> working
> on things that matter.
> Dean Kamen
>
>
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> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:41 PM
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> Subject: getting critical
>
>> ... as in serious, not as in criticism...*smile*
>>
>> Hi all --
>> I absolutely have to get off my old system permanently, which includes
>> moving a good number of mail folders to a new machine.
>> My XP box has been flaky for some months, and now is down to a paltry 9GB
>> on
>> the hard drive.
>> That with loads of stuff like mp3s offloaded onto an external drive.
>>
>> I have used outlook express forever (since getting onto windows) -- now I
>> need to choose between either thunderbird or live mail or whatever else.
>>
>> So could someone tell me which is more accessible? And which can convert
>> OE
>> .dbx mailboxes to whatever other internal format it uses? And is there a
>> mail client that saves mail in a common format that wouldn't depend on
>> just
>> one program?
>>
>> Pushing things off thill the last minute... not a good idea. I have got
>> my
>> windows7 box ready except for antivirus and mail client. I need
>> recommendations.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I am uninstalling and deleting programs right and left so this
>> old box will run. Then if it does, maybe I can procrastinate a little
>> longer.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> --le
>>
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