sorry abt typos. Wonkey l key. On 12/20/10, Alex Midence <alex.midence@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Glad you liked it. I was hoping someone on this list would have > personal recollections of this time and the tech available. Neat how > there was braille output as far back as the 50's. It's a shame that > that stuff is stil as expensive as it is. Perhaps, some day, as > happened with speech technology, blind people will see the price of a > braille display drop to something affordable as in, under a thousand > dollars? Same for a braille printer/embosser. I am enormously > concerned at how many of the blind kids I have met recently have poor > braille reading skils and don't really seem to care that they are > bordering on illiteracy. Having something or someone read to you is > not the same as direct input from a written document to your mind > without an intermediary. In this age of electronic texts, you would > think that braille would explode in popularity since you no longer > have to fill a room with tomes of the stuff. > > Alex M > > On 12/20/10, Rasmussen, Lloyd <lras@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> That was fascinating. Dr. Stoffel worked at NIH for a period after he >> wrote >> that article. I could go on and on about this ancient technology, but >> had >> better do it off-list. >> >> People had produced braille from computers since the 50's. The first >> speech >> for a blind computer user was for Jim Willows, an engineer at the >> Lawrence-Livermore Laboratories in 1968 (letters and numbers played out >> through a digital-to-analog converter). >> >> The context of this article ... Votrax devices had been on the market >> for >> several years, but the SC-01 chip was put into the Type 'n Talk in 1981. >> This device had built-in letter-to-sound rules, so you didn't have to >> send >> phonemes to it as you did the earlier V S A and VSB boards. These three >> devices took RS-232 data and either acted like terminals or interpreted >> terminal sequences and sent the data along through another serial port to >> be >> displayed. They were not screen readers running on the computer whose >> screen was being read. It was revolutionary to think that you could buy >> a >> $300 Type 'n Talk instead of a $5,000 talking terminal to speak the data >> coming from an RS-232 device. The Echo II synthesizer (using the T I >> technology) was added to the Apple II at about this time. By the end of >> 1983 there were screen readers for the Apple II and for the IBM PC. >> >> I worked a little bit with the FSST-3 and the VERT terminal, and heard >> Deane >> Blazie demonstrate the TotalTalk at various conventions. >> >> >> >> Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer >> National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped >> Library of Congress 202-707-0535 >> http://www.loc.gov/nls >> The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of >> the Library of Congress, NLS. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence >> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:24 PM >> To: programmingblind >> Subject: Screen readers and how to develop them: A historical perspective >> >> Hi, all.. >> >> I thought this was rather interesting. It is an article written in >> 1982 about some of the techniques used back then to write screne readers >> or >> "talking terminals" as they called them. I was struck by some of the >> predictions the author made with regard to the future, some of wich came >> true and others which did not. There was also a very interesting section >> on >> speech synthesis and how to get the hardware and software to do many of >> the >> things we take for granted nowadays like starting and stopping speech, >> repeating previously spoken text, deciding what to say as an acronym and >> what to speak as a word, punctuation levels and so forth. It was >> fascinating stuff. >> >> http://web.archive.org/web/20060625225004/http://www.edstoffel.com/david/talkingterminals.html >> >> Oh yeah, and get a load of the prices for that stuff! Keep in mind that >> was >> in 1980's money too. Put like a 33% markup on it and you might >> approximate >> what it would cost in today's money. >> >> Alex M >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind