Re: Next steps on Open Komodo

By the way, did you use the bug reporting procedure of Freedom
Scientific to notify appropriate staff through appropriate channels of
your synthesizer concern?  If so, would you post the response to your
written communication about this?

Jamal
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Octavian Rasnita
wrote:

> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:25:28 +0200
> From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo
>
> Yes I could do it, and I also offered help for some programs I was
> interested in, but I haven't found programmers for open source programs that
> were willing to help with coding, but a lot of "if you don't like it, do it
> yourself" answers.
>
> Octavian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Why not do it for other people? What's wrong with that? Someone might do
> > something for you in return.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change the
> > world.  Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >             "Octavian
> >             Rasnita"
> >             <orasnita@xxxxxxx                                          To
> >             om>                       programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >             programmingblind-
> >             bounce@freelists.                                     Subject
> >             org                       Re: Next steps on Open Komodo
> >
> >
> >             11/02/2007 02:38
> >             AM
> >
> >
> >             Please respond to
> >             programmingblind@
> >               freelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, this is true, but those people are also true.
> > If I don't know C  to be able to improve a certain program, it doesn't
> > matter that I can help with translations of the interface, or
> > documentation,
> > because it won't help me.
> >
> > And the programmers that create the open source programs use to say that
> > if
> >
> > you don't like it, make your own improvements.
> >
> > Octavian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim" <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo
> >
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> One of the things a lot of people can't see is how they can contribute.
> >> They get the impression that the only people who are able to contribute
> >> are the very technical people.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> __________
> >> Less time in line at the checkout counter, more time with your loved
> > ones.
> >> http://snipurl.com/shopandprofit
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:39 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo
> >>
> >>
> >>> 100 percent agreed.  Sorry if I came across wrong to you.  I feel that
> >>> the amount of talent on this list alone could help the blind community
> > in
> >>> many ways if many understood what open source software was and how it
> > can
> >>> benefit the blind community as a whole.  I recently started a little
> > open
> >>> source email list of my own but it kind of fell by the way side because
> > I
> >>> found that so many of the blind did not understand what open source
> >>> software was. Many of them when they downloaded something like Audasity,
> >
> >>> expected it to be Adobe Audition or Sonar right out of the gate.  I am
> >>> assuming it is because the concept that the source code is available to
> >>> download, modify and make it work for them is so new and foreign to what
> >
> >>> they have been shown.  I was still able to see when Netscape made their
> >>> browser open source and became Mozilla.  I also must admit was not a big
> >
> >>> user of the Netscape browser, but have always followed the open source
> >>> movement with interest.  Now when I see companies like FS charging the
> >>> blind community the prices they do for their software.  Be it better
> >>> software or not I am going to try my best to promote an alternative they
> >
> >>> can afford or even get for free.  Frankly a majority of screen reader
> >>> users are like many of the sighted users.  What they do with their
> >>> computer is browse the web, check email and burn an occasional CD. With
> >>> the open source movement however, a screen reader may only do those now
> >>> but later has the potential to do things that products like Jaws can
> > only
> >>> dream of.  Yes, I am talking about NVDA and the Jaws supporters will be
> >>> up in arms about it all.  But the Jaws people need to realize that their
> >
> >>> software is too expensive to the masses.  Even to people that can afford
> >
> >>> it. To the people that complain that open source software is crap, turn
> >>> your computer off now because the software that is allowing you to
> >>> receive this email, and serves the web to you is also an open source
> >>> project. Some other bits of software that people may not even realize is
> >
> >>> open source is Python, php, My SQL, and even Perl.  The list goes on,
> > but
> >>> the choice is up to the blind programmers in what they take away from
> >>> what I have said.
> >>> JohnPG search for all of your Jaws scripts at
> >>> http://www.blindcrawler.com/
> >>> Also be sure to check out Blind Crawler's Legend of the Green Dragon
> >>> server at http://www.blindcrawler.com/lotg/
> >>> There will be more to come from Blind Crawler very soon.
> >>> Administrator: John Greer
> >>> Blind Crawler.com
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Aaron Leventhal" <aaronlev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 6:51 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Next steps on Open Komodo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I agree that in general, that many large companies can do more.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I also believe that the community itself can do more for itself.
> >>>> Wouldn't it be great to see more organization and activity from the
> >>>> community itself? Look at what's possible on the net today, with
> > efforts
> >>>> like Wikipedia, Linux and Mozilla. I say lead by example, and take your
> >
> >>>> fate into your own hands. Raise the bar for the big companies and show
> >>>> them what accessibility is. The knowledge is distributed but the action
> >
> >>>> can be united.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Aaron
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