RE: Cygwin, JAWS and NVDA

  • From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:57:12 -0500

Hi,
Are you saying that Emacs runs in Cygwin?

Thanks.

Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 6:53 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Cygwin, JAWS and NVDA

I can reproduce it but I'm not sure how to explain it.
I tried Putty again just for fun but it's even worse than the Windows Console.
Cursor tracking is horrible and because of that Putty is not usable.

I also see the problem you explain but I have cursor tracking issues as well 
when using the Windows Console.
But as I said not as bad as in Putty.
This problem only occurs when I remote login to a Linux box from the Windows 
Console using the OpenSSH package (Cygwin).

When I use the console locally with Emacs, gcc and general command-line use all 
is well.

So what happens to cursor tracking after sshing into a Linux machine is beyond 
me.

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From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Ken Perry 
[whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 19:02
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Cygwin, JAWS and NVDA

Actually the problem is jaws tried to use the new console api in windows 7
and broke everything.  They have fixed some of the problem and I can at
least use cigwin with 11 and 12 without screaming now.  The only problem I
have is when deleting characters it repeats the whole line on each
character.  I will say though FS listened to me when I told them exactly
what was wrong they fixed the problem with the console I had to have fixed
so I could use it.  If you can reproduce the problem and explain it to them
they will fix it.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:04 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Cygwin, JAWS and NVDA

Cygwin is actually using the Windows Console (cmd.exe) by default.
So, unfortunately JAWS does not work optimally with the Windows Console any
more.
However it used to work great - I started seeing this problem in JAWS 10.
NVDA works great with the Console whether I'm working locally or ssh into a
remote Linux box.

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Nick.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 9. februar 2011 17:32
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Cygwin, JAWS and NVDA

Hi.

I use open SSH with Supernova with out any problems.
As far as I know SN just treats the ssh session as a normal console
application. Is there a way in jaws to use the set of scripts for cmd.exe.
This assumes that jaws works OK with normal console applications.

Hth.
Nick.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: 09 February 2011 16:22
To: Programming Blind
Subject: Cygwin, JAWS and NVDA

Hi all:

I use Cygwin for C development on Windows.
I also use OpenSSH on Cygwin to access Linux/UNIX machines from Windows.

And the ssh part gives me a lot of headache.
JAWS doesn't handle the console correctly when moving line by line or
character by character.
Some times it works but very often JAWS speaks the previous character and
sometimes not speaks the character at all.
Maybe I'm moving to fast?

However NVDA handles the console very well.

So, can anyone help me out creating a JAWS script to work around this?
Or recommend a different ssh client?

Another solution could be to silence JAWS when the console has focus (I know
how to do this), but I can't figure out how to silence NVDA when the console
is not the window that has focus.

I mean put JAWS to sleep when the console has focus, then wake up NVDA to
handle the console and put NVDA to sleep when I'm working in Outlook etc.

I hope this makes sense.


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