Re: [PCWorks] Repairing XP pro
- From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin-OrpheusComputing.com & ComputersCustomBuilt.com" <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:46:27 -0600
I would think it would happen more than just "seldom". But at
any rate, IE6 or IE7, contrary to what M$ and other sites claim
you WILL lose data when doing a repair! I know I posted
something on this but I can't find the post now. A while back
I had to do a repair and LUCKILY I DID backup everything. It's
a good thing I did because what essentially happens is a
reformat but with your email intact! "My Documents" was wiped
out, all drivers, all custom settings and tweaks for XP, and
all custom settings for any programs, only a couple of programs
still worked but still lost their settings, and OE was totally
empty plus put back to default, and the email had to be
imported back in. I think the only reason that happened and
the emails were not lost is because the store was not in the
default location! You also lose any M$ updates installed.
I wasted more time trying to figure out which programs TOTALLY
worked, and other BS that it would have been quicker just to do
a real reformat. I believe you mentioned Hugh that you have
slipstreamed CD with the updates on it, that's a big time-saver
there. I made an XP Pro SP2 slipstreamed CD, but no updates
because you never know when M$ is going to withdraw a buggy or
screwed up update and replace it with another.
Is the slipstreamed CD with the updates made the same way as
one without the updates? If not, do you have the info on how
to do that? (For those that don't know, a "slipstreamed" CD is
good if you only have an XP or XP SP1 CD. You create a new CD
with SP2 on it and it seamlessly integrates with the install
just as before without SP2. That way you install the CD as
usual but don't have to install SP2).
-Clint
God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics-Sales.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh Vandervoort"
I wonder how often this scenario might play out. I would think
repair
installs happen very seldom, and conventional wisdom suggests
we should
back up everything before undertaking one, but I can see myself
skipping
this step prior to knowing about this IE7 mess.
I wonder if that means Explorer won't work either?
It looks like the biggest loss would be time, in most cases,
but that's
not always a trivial loss.
I see yet another gain for Linux and Macintosh here. I've never
been a
MS basher, but you gotta' wonder just what's going on with
those folks.
Chuck M Harris wrote:
> Hi all,
> I mentioned the Dell CD because I've had no trouble with it
> when doing
> repair installs on Dells (until IE7 reared its ugly
> non-repairing head).
> I've typically had exactly the opposite result when using the
> same or
> different product keys with retail and OEM versions of XP CDs
> that Clint
> and Hugh have experienced. As I recall, Microsoft started the
> activation
> process with XP so as to keep OS pirating in check. (I am not
> suggesting
> that anyone on the list is pirating XP). It does occur to me
> though that
> Microsoft is looking at a potentially massive lawsuit
> regarding the
> problem of repair installs and IE7. Most endusers who have XP
> (with SP2)
> will also have Automatic Updates turned on. Therefore they
> will have had
> IE7 installed/pushed on them as a direct result. Some people
> will see
> this whole process as another BS method by Microsoft to force
> people to
> take drastic, time consuming and possibly expensive actions
> such as: 1)
> backing everything up, formatting and reinstalling XP and all
> their
> programs and data backups plus all the updates, or 2) feel
> forced to
> jettison XP and upgrade to Vista (maybe along with a new
> computer). It is
> true that Microsoft and large computer manufacturing
> companies would
> stand to profit under this scenario.
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