Re: [PCWorks] Can an update be rolled-back in FireFox?

  • From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin" <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:27:41 -0500

If ALL of my extensions will work with it......sure!

You'd think these idiots would KNOW their downloads and 
installs aren't working!

Neither have I ever been a fan of Flash.  I don't see the 
point.....unless it's to annoy people then they've succeed 
quite well at that.

I'll check out that page (and save it), I found a similar one 
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html 
and I installed the EXE version for "plugin-based browsers", 
since I DESPISE those problematic MSI files.  That appeared 
work, HOWEVER, now the frickin' RealPlayer plugin won't work 
for ANY browser at YouTube!  In FF I get the issue I mentioned 
below, and now in IE it's just AUDIO!  The jerks at YT will do 
ANYTHING to prevent people from HAVING ANY of their videos!  If 
they would not be that annoying streaming kind, that stop, 
jerk, stutter, BUFFERING.....stop, start, jerk, stutter, 
BUFFERING........etc, no one would NEED to download them!

I think I'm going to be forced to do a restore.  IF I ever get 
prompted again by anything to do any update of anything, I'LL 
SHOOT MY MONITOR and set fire to my PC.  Then, I request that 
someone do that TO ME should I be anencephalic enough to do it. 
(ROTFLMAO).

Thanks again Mozilla & Adobe.  You're as bad as M$.
-Clint

God Bless,
Clint Hamilton, Owner
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Moore"



Couldn't talk you into installing Firefox 13 I guess. ;-)

You did check to see if Flash is enabled on the plugins page.

Over the years I've had problems with Flash installs.  Usually 
I end up
ripping all of flash out and starting over.  On this page there 
is a flash
install uninstaller about half way down.
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html 
You
might try that.

I'll be glad when Adobe flash is gone and everything is html5. 
(Then you
will have to update, I'm afraid.  ;-) )  I've really never been 
a fan of
Flash, too many updates.  Too many security problems.  Way too 
resource
hungry.  With android it's even worse.

Wait for the valium to take effect before proceeding.  ;-)

Ben



-----Original Message-----

It was 3.5.17, I tried to update to 3.6.?? (it's what it said I
needed when I checked for udpates) and it got (as I expected)
HOSED.  So as per the email I just posted, I had to go back to
the previous version.

Ok I see the Themes area, thanks!

No, not on this PC!  Like I said below, there is no option to
save, it just tries to install it on-the-fly!  And that
ridiculous McAfee toolbar is NOT checked, so I don't know why
the URL says that, apparently they try and shove it down your
throat regardless.

As for Java, I had to search for the file on my HD then
manually click it, then it installed ok so that much is fixed.

But even after getting the file
"install_flashplayer10x32_mssd_aih.exe" from OTHER websites, it
still won't install and still gives that #$#%! error message!

"Host

Unable to load application configuration"

"Host" is on the title bar of the popup.

I've tried searching for that issue and all I find is BS
search-engine-bait pages, or morons that reply with "use
another browser like Chrome". <disgust>

>"Do you have your system locked down where
>the installer can't get out to the download?"

?? I have no idea.

Further, as for that idiotic "Some plugins used by this page
are out of date" message, there is actually an area in the
Extensions and Plugins area, at the top, where you can DISABLE
that kind of checking, and it IS disabled on mine!  Yet the
spastic message still showed up!  But after going back to my
previous version of FF, it no longer shows up.

Yet another example of why you NEVER update anything unless you
have endless hours to fix a ruined PC.  But the problem is the
a-hole websites that FORCE you to update, or the BLOCK their
content from you!  It's a global conspiracy to FORCE EVERYONE
to use the EXACT SAME version of EVERYTHING....or else you're
just blocked out from everything.  Communism.  Long gone are
the days of having a CHOICE and OPTIONS, and CONTROL over what
you want.

I need a Valium now.  LoL.

So what remains now, even after going back to my previous FF
version, is I still can't update Adobe, and now even though the
RealPlayer plugin is back and supposedly downloading videos,
when I try to click the download they are all "Cannot render
the file"!!  So even after going back to the previous version
the RP plugin doesn't work!
-Clint


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Moore"



Which version of Firefox are you running?

On the addons page select appearance on the left and see if you
have a
different color scheme installed.

Try the java from this page
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp  I
would uninstall java first if you've been having problems
updating.

For Flash ... it always just saves.  Then you have to run it
from the saved
location.  The link you provided includes that stupid McAfee
scan thing.
Get the other link on that page.  If you have problems, again,
uninstall the
old one although usually you shouldn't have to.

Since you are getting all those weird messages, I assume you've
updated to a
more current version of FF.  Firefox is following Chrome in
disabling
plugin's and extensions that might cause problems without your
permission.
It's the wave of the future, Clint.  You have no control.  I've
never gotten
that "some plugins" message.  Of course I keep my plugins
updated.  Maybe
it's a message just for you.  ;-)

Both Flash and Java use installers that download the file after
you start
the install.  Do you have your system locked down where the
installer can't
get out to the download?

Ben



-----Original Message-----

Ok thanks Phil.

Well I updated it, and the toolbar changed to some strange
abstract blue color and I can't see how to change it back!  I
can't find any area about skins.

Furthermore, I picked a bookmark at random, and I get this BS
about "Some plugins used by this page are out of date", then I
click to update them, and this PoS tells me it has DISABLED
Java: "For your safety, Firefox has disabled your outdated
version of Java. Please upgrade to the latest version",  (which
goes to
http://www.java.com/en/download/inc/windows_new_xpi.jsp ) and I
can't update it!  The wonderful HELPFUL "An unknown error has
occurred"!  Who the hell is it to disable anything without my
permission??

Then I also see on the page
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/ where it tells me I
need the Java update a bunch of other "necessary" updates such
as Adobe Shockwave, and it also won't update it either!  For
MONTHS I have been trying to update Shockwave
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ and download is STILL
corrupt!  Except now, it too says the same "unknown error has
occurred" as the Java gave!
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/download/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Oth
er_Browsers&os=XP&browser_type=Gecko&browser_dist=Firefox&d=McAfee_Security_
Scan_Plus
"When Opening dialog box appears, click Save File", there is no
"Opening dialog"!!  This is ridiculous.

This is why I hate that browser.

How do I simply get RID of that annoying "Some plugins used by
this page are out of date" message so I never have to see it
again?  And how do I get rid of that blue skin and put it back
to default?

Thanks,
-Clint

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phill Argus"

Worked for me when one of the add ons I use wasn't compatible
with the
new version for a few days till it (the add on) was updated.

Phill

On 21/06/2012 20:29, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin wrote:
> Thanks Phil I forgot about that.
> http://www.oldversion.com/
> http://www.oldapps.com/
>
> "Over the top"?  You sure about that?
> -Clint

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phill Argus"
>
> Not via the toolbar AFAIK, however you can reinstall an older
> version
> over the top.  Previous versions are available on the WWW.
>
> Phill
>
> On 21/06/2012 19:31, Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin wrote:
>> Can anyone please tell me if you update FireFox via the
>> toolbar, can you go back or roll-back to the previous
>> version
>> you were using?  The last time I did this, I had to end up
>> totally removing it because the update made it even slower
>> and
>> less stable.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Clint

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