nightsneak, I agree with your observations. However most people who use Juno do not pay anything for the internet service or the mail service. This was a plan dreamed up to help generate revenue besides the ads. Pay for Juno and there are a lot less ads. I am not sure if the pay agreements state that Juno may download programs. AOL always seems to be downloading something to my system. The link to Free AOL, winamp, IM, and other stuff. I do not have AOL has an ISP and I agree that downloading programs on my computer without my knowledge is wrong. I have the same complaint about Real player and networks. Dave ------------------------------ From: "nightsneak1" <nightsneak1@xxxxxxx> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: NetZero Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:19:27 -0400 David, I think that one of the problems with Juno, and now Netzero, and others, is that you have to agree to them taking over your computer at any time without your knowledge. The problem may not be specifically that they do, but the point that you MUST agree that they CAN, at any time, and without your further knowledge. Personally, to me, these would be unacceptable restrictions, but then again, I read everything I have set in front of my face <G> MOST people, for one, never read their policies, TOS (Terms of Service), etc., and so, MOST people never understand that they signed their rights to their own computer away. It is fine to me if "I" want to assign my rights to my computer to some organization, but the biggest point is, that "I" paid for my computer, "I" pay for internet service, and "I" decide who can and won't use it. nightsneak ----------------------------------------------------------- AOL dfwooledge ICQ 59686911 www.geocities.com/wooledge001_/ www.mental-health-advocate.us wooledge001@xxxxxxxx wooledge001_@xxxxxxxxxxx dwooledge@xxxxxxxx To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk