-=PCTechTalk=- Re: NetZero
- From: "nightsneak1" <nightsneak1@xxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:19:27 -0400
David,
I think that one of the problems with Juno, and now Netzero, and others, is
that you have to agree to them taking over your computer at any time without
your knowledge. The problem may not be specifically that they do, but the
point that you MUST agree that they CAN, at any time, and without your
further knowledge.
Personally, to me, these would be unacceptable restrictions, but then again,
I read everything I have set in front of my face <G>
MOST people, for one, never read their policies, TOS (Terms of Service),
etc., and so, MOST people never understand that they signed their rights to
their own computer away.
It is fine to me if "I" want to assign my rights to my computer to some
organization, but the biggest point is, that "I" paid for my computer, "I"
pay for internet service, and "I" decide who can and won't use it.
nightsneak
----- Original Message -----
From: "David F Wooledge" <wooledge001@xxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <no-tags-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:42 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- NetZero
| Milady,
| I am not sure what you mean by downloads. The users agreement says that
| Juno (I think same with NetZero) may download programs to use your CPU
| during "free cycles". I think this called distributed computing.
| Anyway, Juno has never implemented this policy. I do have Seti at Home
| on my system, which processes radio singles from radio telescopes. It
| downloads a "data packet", processes it, sends it back and gets another
| one. This similar to what Juno wanted to set up with companies using
| it's users systems. Juno never did it though. as far as time, United
| Online (Juno and NetZero parent company) have several pricing structures.
| Some, are hard to find. the free accounts are supposed to restrict to
| 10 hours, it never does for me. They have a low pay, about $5.00 that
| gives limited number of hours per month, then adds a surcharge. The
| other plans that say unlimited are indeed unlimited. Sometimes the site
| doesn't always show all the different plans and sometimes asks for a
| credit card for the free site. If you don't enter one it goes on and
| processes the new account as free. You don't need to put in a credit
| card.
| I hope that this has helped.
| Dave
|
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|
| From: " milady" <kg6ocz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- NetZero
| Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:49:20 -0700
|
| Does anyone know anything about NetZero??? I used to use them as ISP but
| the
| info I am reading is different from what it seems used to be. Since Juno
| and
| NetZero are both of the same co I wondered if the same holds true that
| both
| use downloads into client computers without the paying client
| knowing...and
| they don't give a DEFINITE unlimited..so one has to wonder if they cut
| you
| off after a certain number of hours if you are on the paid program...just
| wondering
|
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