Cajun How are things progressing now? Regards Chris chris@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.spotta.com -----Original Message----- From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Sent: 20 April 2005 17:02 To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: IDE2 & IDE3 Connectors on new build When I started this reply I was under the impression that you had 3 IDE channels. One on the motherboard and two on the VT6410. After browsing the Gigabyte link, I suspect what you actually have is TWO IDE channels. One on the MoBo (IDE 0) and One on the VT 6410 (IDE 1).... each having a primary and a secondary connector. The floppy MAY have its own controller connector, but I think it uses the IDE 0 secondary connector instead. I did not edit the message to reflect this change in thinking, just in case you _DO_ have three channels. Computers are wierd. They number things from 0 not from 1. When I think computers, I think from 0. So I suspect I am confused because I suspect you are numbering your IDE controllers 1, 2 and 3 and I would number them 0, 1 and 2. Or, if you are referring to the primary and secondary connectors as IDE 1 and IDE2 that would be confusing also. The manual is not readable online so I don't know how it numbered things. My line of thinking is sometimes twisted and perverse, but if I were buying a RAID controller for IDE devices, I would expect the only way an IDE device would work while connected to the RAID controller would be in a RAID configuration. Thus floppy drives, ZIP drives and CD-ROM drives could not be connected to them. And to make a hard drive work you would need TWO harddrives connected to it. If that turns out to be the situation, I would try this... 1. This paragraph assumes the motherboard owns IDE0 and the VT6410 IDE Controller owns IDE1 and IDE2. Every IDE controller I've seen has a Primary and a Secondary connector. A Master and a Slave can be connected to each one. Thus, you should be able to connect all three devices to IDE 0. If the Floppy is occupying one, then slave the CD-ROM to the Floppy and then slave the ZIP to the hard drive on the other. I would place the harddrive on the primary and the floppy on the secondary. You would then have ALL 4 devices connected to IDE 0 (IDE 1if you numbered them 1-2-3). If the Floppy is on its own separate controller then the same idea applies. I would slave the Zip to the Harddrive on the primary channel and master the CD-ROM on the secondary. Or, if there is only a single connector on IDE0 then... 2. Buy a SATA hard drive for your boot drive and then install CD and ZIP on IDE 0. OR 3. Buy an EXTERNAL case for the hard drive and connect to a USB port. Connect the ZIP and CD to IDE 0. OR 4. Try to slave the CD drive to the floppy and the Zip to the harddrive. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cajun" <cajun@xxxxxxxxx> To: "PCTechTalk" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:44 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- IDE2 & IDE3 Connectors on new build > Hello Don. Everything on this computer is new. The hard drive was > formatted for the first time when put into this computer. I never take a > hard drive with an installed operating system out of one computer and put > it into another computer. This board has integrated High Definition > Azalea sound and an installed Albatron 6600 video card. The only thing I > took out of my old computer were the Plextor CDRW drive and the Zip 250. > Both are between one and two years old. > I have posed a question to the Gigabyte Tech Support Forum, but they have > not answered. I posed a much simpler question there two days ago and got > an answer in half a day. > > I built the computer at someone else's house and had not yet pulled my > CDRW and Zip drives for installation in the new computer. So, we used an > external USB CD-ROM drive to install Windows XP on the hard drive, which > was plugged into IDE1. When the hard drive is plugged into IDE1, it does > boot into Windows perfectly. The Gigabyte manual says that the CD-ROM > drive must be plugged into IDE1 in order to work properly. This board has > SATA Raid and IDE Raid. I am not running RAID. IDE Raid is on the VT6410 > IDE Controller and I'm gathering that it controls IDE2 & IDE3. So, I > followed the instructions to configure the VT6410 IDE Controller mode and > boot sequence in the BIOS by enabling Onboard H/W Raid and then moving the > IDE HDD up to Item #1 in the Hard Disk Boot Priority section. With these > BIOS settings, the following happens: > > With CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE1 and the IDE HDD on IDE2, it boots to the > Windows XP screen, then a very fast flash of error messages in blue flash > by and it reboots. > > With the CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE1 and the HDD unplugged, it boots to > the CDRW. > > With the HDD plugged into IDE1 and the CDRW & Zip unplugged, it boots to > Windows XP perfectly, but (of course) no CDRW or Zip. > > With the HDD plugged into IDE1 and the CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE2, it > boots to Windows XP perfectly but does not recognize the CDRW & Zip. > > I have no SATA drives at this time. In the BIOS: > SATA Raid/AHCI Mode - disabled > On-Chip SATA Mode - auto > > The Boot sequence is: > Floppy > Hard Drive > CD-ROM > > I have arranged this in different ways, but it didn't matter. > > The hard drive is correctly identified in the BIOS when it is plugged into > IDE1. > > This is a Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo Pro board. > http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8I915P%20Duo%20Pro .htm > > I have never had SATA and RAID capabilities before, so I don't know what > I'm doing wrong. I initially had the Onboard H/W Raid disabled in the > BIOS and it was not recognizing the hard drive at all or attempting to > boot into Windows. After enabling this and making the HDD the first boot > priority drive in the BIOS, it starts to boot into Windows, but then > reboots. Could this be happening because the Zip is on the cable with the > CD-ROM drive? Could it need to be on the cable with the hard drive > instead? > > dj > -- > <Please delete this line and everything below.> > > To unsub or change your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > -- <Please delete this line and everything below.> To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.18 - Release Date: 19/04/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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