-=PCTechTalk=- Re: IDE2 & IDE3 Connectors on new build

When I started this reply I was under the impression that you had 3 IDE 
channels.  One on the motherboard and two on the VT6410.  After browsing the 
Gigabyte link, I suspect what you actually have is TWO IDE channels.  One on 
the MoBo (IDE 0) and One on the VT 6410 (IDE 1).... each having a primary 
and a secondary connector.  The floppy MAY have its own controller 
connector, but I think it uses the IDE 0 secondary connector instead.  I did 
not edit the message to reflect this change in thinking, just in case you 
_DO_ have three channels.




Computers are wierd.  They number things from 0 not from 1.  When I think 
computers, I think from 0.  So I suspect I am confused because I suspect you 
are numbering your IDE controllers 1, 2 and 3 and I would number them 0, 1 
and 2.   Or, if you are referring to the primary and secondary connectors as 
IDE 1 and IDE2  that would be confusing also.  The manual is not readable 
online so I don't know how it numbered things.

My line of thinking is sometimes twisted and perverse, but if I were buying 
a RAID controller for IDE devices, I would expect the only way an IDE device 
would work while connected to the RAID controller would be in a RAID 
configuration.  Thus floppy drives, ZIP drives and CD-ROM drives could not 
be connected to them.  And to make a hard drive work you would need TWO 
harddrives connected to it.

If that turns out to be the situation, I would try this...

1.  This paragraph assumes the motherboard owns IDE0 and the VT6410 IDE 
Controller owns IDE1 and IDE2.  Every IDE controller I've seen has a Primary 
and a Secondary connector.  A Master and a Slave can be connected to each 
one.  Thus, you should be able to connect all three devices to IDE 0.    If 
the Floppy is occupying one, then slave the CD-ROM to the Floppy and then 
slave the ZIP to the hard drive on the other.  I would place the harddrive 
on the primary and the floppy on the secondary.  You would then have ALL 4 
devices connected to IDE 0  (IDE 1if you numbered them 1-2-3).  If the 
Floppy is on its own separate controller then the same idea applies.  I 
would slave the Zip to the Harddrive on the primary channel and master the 
CD-ROM on the secondary.   Or, if there is only a single connector on IDE0 
then...

2. Buy a SATA hard drive for your boot drive and then install CD and ZIP on 
IDE 0.   OR

3. Buy an EXTERNAL case for the hard drive and connect to a USB port. 
Connect the ZIP and CD to IDE 0.  OR

4. Try to slave the CD drive to the floppy and the Zip to the harddrive.



Don




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cajun" <cajun@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "PCTechTalk" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- IDE2 & IDE3 Connectors on new build


> Hello Don.  Everything on this computer is new.  The hard drive was 
> formatted for the first time when put into this computer.  I never take a 
> hard drive with an installed operating system out of one computer and put 
> it into another computer.   This board has integrated High Definition 
> Azalea sound and an installed Albatron 6600 video card.  The only thing I 
> took out of my old computer were the Plextor CDRW drive and the Zip 250. 
> Both are between one and two years old.
> I have posed a question to the Gigabyte Tech Support Forum, but they have 
> not answered.  I posed a much simpler question there two days ago and got 
> an answer in half a day.
>
> I built the computer at someone else's house and had not yet pulled my 
> CDRW and Zip drives for installation in the new computer.  So, we used an 
> external USB CD-ROM drive to install Windows XP on the hard drive, which 
> was plugged into IDE1.  When the hard drive is plugged into IDE1, it does 
> boot into Windows perfectly.  The Gigabyte manual says that the CD-ROM 
> drive must be plugged into IDE1 in order to work properly.  This board has 
> SATA Raid and IDE Raid.  I am not running RAID.  IDE Raid is on the VT6410 
> IDE Controller and I'm gathering that it controls IDE2 & IDE3.  So, I 
> followed the instructions to configure the VT6410 IDE Controller mode and 
> boot sequence in the BIOS by enabling Onboard H/W Raid and then moving the 
> IDE HDD up to Item #1 in the Hard Disk Boot Priority section.  With these 
> BIOS settings, the following happens:
>
> With CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE1 and the IDE HDD on IDE2, it boots to the 
> Windows XP screen, then a very fast flash of error messages in blue flash 
> by and it reboots.
>
> With the CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE1 and the HDD unplugged, it boots to 
> the CDRW.
>
> With the HDD plugged into IDE1 and the CDRW & Zip unplugged, it boots to 
> Windows XP perfectly, but (of course) no CDRW or Zip.
>
> With the HDD plugged into IDE1 and the CDRW & Zip plugged into IDE2, it 
> boots to Windows XP perfectly but does not recognize the CDRW & Zip.
>
> I have no SATA drives at this time.  In the BIOS:
> SATA Raid/AHCI Mode - disabled
> On-Chip SATA Mode - auto
>
> The Boot sequence is:
> Floppy
> Hard Drive
> CD-ROM
>
> I have arranged this in different ways, but it didn't matter.
>
> The hard drive is correctly identified in the BIOS when it is plugged into 
> IDE1.
>
> This is a Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo Pro board. 
> http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8I915P%20Duo%20Pro.htm
>
> I have never had SATA and RAID capabilities before, so I don't know what 
> I'm doing wrong.  I initially had the Onboard H/W Raid disabled in the 
> BIOS and it was not recognizing the hard drive at all or attempting to 
> boot into Windows.  After enabling this and making the HDD the first boot 
> priority drive in the BIOS, it starts to boot into Windows, but then 
> reboots.  Could this be happening because the Zip is on the cable with the 
> CD-ROM drive?  Could it need to be on the cable with the hard drive 
> instead?
>
> dj
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