Images are usually stored to either another HD in compressed format (although it could be a complete uncompressed clone) or to multiple CDs or DVDs. Obviously, with CDs, you'r going to be using quite a few discs to save all the info. But, with DVDs (assuming you have a DVD burner) you would use much less (approximately 7 CDs to one DVD). Another option is to install a hard drive pull-out tray into your system. You can then use additional hard drives like the old pull-out car sterios. You would by a hard drive and use it solely for hard drive imaging. Pop it into the tray, make the image, and remove and store. The thing with images, I would think MOST people make the image of their system BEFORE installing all their software. In other words, if something goes wrong, you don't need to go through the full Windows installation, but rather pull out a cloned image of a good copy. Just faster, but not necessarily a "backup" means. Of course, there's no rules that say you can't make an image often. With WinBackup, or similar software, you configure it to make backups of specific locations. It would make the backups either to another drive or, if you choose, to removeable media (ZIP disk, floppy, CD/DVD). You just have to remember to add new items for backup if you start using another program that has files you need. I'll give you my situation as an example: I use a program called BACK IT UP. Does the same thing WINBACKUP does. I have it set to make a backup of my files daily. Now, I leave my computer on all the time, 24 hours, so I have it set that at 3:00am it runs the backup set. The backup set (which is VERY EASY to set up, mind you) is set to completely copy and zip the files/folders in question. So, its archived in a zip format, taking up minimal space on the destination. The destination is my second computer (which is also on 24 hours). So, at 3:00am every morning, it makes all the backups. The set basically makes backs up my FAVORITES, my EMAIL FOLDER (so any saved emails would be there), plus everything in my MY DOCUMENTS folder, as well as my own version of MY DOCUMENTS which I call SAVED FILES. There's more in the set, but these are the one's you would be familiar with. If there's a crash, and I lose this info, I have backups now. Now, lets say I decide to install Microsoft Word. And, all my Word documents I save in a folder called c:\worddocs Now I would set up my backup set to include c:\worddocs. Understand ---Troth ----- Original Message ----- From: cris To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: HD Companies :VSMail mx2 Thanks!!! LOL well - I know I have an assortment of burned cd's that I've no idea what I've saved to them! Well - that's not entirely true. I did screenshots of what is on them in Windows Explorer - so I have that all printed out - it's just that the cd's are all sort of in a hodge podge!! I guess if I crashed - things I would want backed up are my favorites - I always think I want my e-mail backed up, but I never do, and when I do take some from OE to my folder on my other drive, I never end up looking at it again and can never find what I wanted - I really need an organizer - or a way to organize - or the time and ambition to sit here and do it! so - another stupid question - if you do these ghost things - what are you ghosting them to? a cd? Where does your WinBackup back up the information to? I just keep thinking I am on borrowed time. I've never had a computer last this long!! crisS ----- Original Message ----- From: ~OoO~ To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: HD Companies :VSMail mx2 That's pretty much it, you back up the important files. Some guys go further by making a full image on occassion, using something like GHOST or DRIVEIMAGE. Problem with the images is that it might be overkill if you just have files here and there. And, problem with individual backups is you have to go looking all over for all the files you need, plus favorites, settings, emails, etc, that you want to save. You could, of course, as I do, use a program like WinBackup and set it up to automatically make backups at set intervals of specific files and folders. ---Troth ----- Original Message ----- From: cris To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: HD Companies :VSMail mx2 May sound like a silly question - but I really don't know. How do you panic back up everything before it crashes? or what is the important part(s) to back up, and how is that done? I always just try to keep up (which I haven't been doing) with my files by burning them. but I don't do anything with my operating system or program files. what should I be doing? (winXP home) crisS To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk