A program like Audio Catalyst can do both operations for you in one go-I think you can still download a free evaluation copy of the web for it. THere are plenty of others that will do it too, just do a search for 'CD Rippers' on a downloads site. I personally use Exact Audio Copy (EAC) which is also available for free. Cheers Andsy Thanks Andy [or Andsy, whichever you prefer LOL] Will try Exact Audio Copy. Jo Ann To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/