Thanks Everyone for your posts. My PC crashed June 6. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jackie wrote this above on June 4th " have not found any of these antivirus' compatible with Vista in these early builds yet-- and still it will crash your system caused BSOD and crash dumps, disabling major functions of the Operating System. . Don't kid yourself -- You need to be quite aware that it is still very early in the beta state yet so many things that work in XP -- do not work in Vista-- dismantling your other hard drives in the bios and motherboard is a smart thing because Vista has been known to rewrite the boot files- blow the boot menu and the ntlr...knock out your other Os's " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I think this is what happened to me because i am stupid with computers . I think i downloaded the wrong thing, because before i did it everything was working fine, then i had so much trouble and i had to take it to Data Drs. They said hard drive and bios had crashed , motherboard error kept coming up with a black screen with white letters and red letters on the top. I had to get recovery cds from HP , there were 10. Data Drs said my pc is unique, has 4 huge storage sections. All the disks were stuff that came loaded on it. It is for downloading much movies. I do not even do that. My husband bought it for me from Sam's Club in 2004. Well I live and learn. I hope I am like the Bro in the Feb. 2006 Awake, quote from pg. 6, "Ernest, one of JW's who is a retired master baker from Switzerland, is an example of the benefit of 'continued growth through learning'. In his 70's he decided to buy a computer and learn how to use it. Why did he decide to do so, when many his age are intimidated by technology? "First," he explained ,"to keep my mind active as I get older. And second, to keep up with technology that can help me in my bible research and my activity in the Christian congregation." kathleen -- -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.