Quite right Simon - Chris
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Sent: 27 December 2015 16:26
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Subject: [patriots] Re: FW: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA
We have to put them all in prison, we stand for truth and righteousness like
our lord showed us. We have to get these Edomites, cainenites and children of
the devil out of running our country!!
God bless
On 27 Dec 2015, at 16:13, Mike Green <mikegreen247@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mikegreen247@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
As I told you a long time ago John, these people are not working for us they
are working for the other side. Even if some of them are too stupid to realise
it!
Mike.
On 27/12/15 08:14, john TIMBRELL wrote:
Somerset Levels and dredging.
I believe that the wording that you are seeking does not exist. The advice
DEFRA was following was a directive issuing out of the EU requiring EU
countries to let rivers revert to their natural state and one of the reasons I
believe was to encourage the return of wildlife.
We in this country follow EU directives and frequently add a bit more to
demonstrate what loyal Europeans we are. So the soggy boggy Somerset levels,
drained by various peoples since the middle ages by cutting channels to allow
the water from the Polden hills to escape to the sea when the tide was out were
left undredged on the orders of Defra who ignored the warnings of what would
happen if they stopped dredging.
Cumbria flooding, as for as I can find out has nothing to do with lack of
dredging.
It is Caroline Stephens jumping on the bandwagon and quoting stuff that does
not exist. When challenged she comes up with an excuse as she did here with the
crustaceans remark. Challenge her on this and eventually she cannot answer.
Then she requests or tells you that she does not wish to communicate with you
anymore.
She did this with me when I asked for her stance on the Illegal EU treaties.She
obviously knew nothing about our constitution which is surprising because it is
all about our sovereignty.One would have thought that a UKIP candidate would
have been as familiar with it as the Lord's Prayer.
I've picked Caroline out because she put her head above the parapet. There are
a lot more like her. JohnT
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Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:53:39 +0000
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Subject: Fwd: FW: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA
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From: maday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:maday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Marilyn Day <mailto:maday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: 26 December 2015 at 10:13
Subject: FW: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA
I also believe there must be a directive that says dredging cannot
occur. 2 people now have been interviewed
on the TV and both said it was because of some crustacean living in the river
that they are not allowed to do it. Marilyn
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Message Received: Dec 26 2015, 08:11 AM
From: "Caroline Stephens"
To: "Marilyn Day"
Cc:
Subject: Fwd: Re: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA
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Caroline,
I've spent considerable time reading the directive and have been unable to
find any statement that would cause an issue to Cumbria. Perhaps you would
copy me the text with the paragraph number.
I find it odd that the dredging in Somerset post dates the directive, if the
directive restricts dredging, how did the Somerset dredging proceed?
On Friday, 25 December 2015, 15:55, Caroline Stephens
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Subject: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA
Crises bind 'communities'!...Unnecessary Disaster in Cumbria!! Please
read.
EU Water Framework Directive, adopted 2000 places constraints on the
dredging of rivers.
Here's your explanation - I suspected something like this - now it's
confirmed!
I wonder if these horrific floods will change people's minds over the
EU Regulations - I doubt it, because they will be kept very quiet!
Worcester has exactly the same problem! The water has nowhere to go -
except through your house!
I blame Common Purpose and daft Councils - as well as the EU regs -
which sensible people would ignore, as lives are at stake! Ask the
folks in Cumbria.......!
We are SO stupid to fall for this ....rubbish - where's the Common
Sense?
See the end of:
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/water/water-framework/index_en.html
The Sunday Telegraph, 13 December, 2015
EU dredging rules make effective flood
prevention in Britain impossible
SIR -- It is not surprising that the rivers in Cumbria have flooded
again (report December 6), so soon after the last inundation in 2009.
The Environment Agency cites all kinds of reasons for this.
However, it neglects to mention that its policy is dictated by the EU
Water Framework Directive, adopted 2000, which places constraints on
the dredging of rivers.
Putting in flood defences does not infringe the policy, as long as the
river is not dredged or embanked. Hence, for example, the erection of
expensive and ineffective glass panels on the wall next to the Greta
river in Keswick. Here there has been absolutely no dredging of the
gravel that has raised the river bed considerably over the last decade.
There is nothing unusual about heavy rainfall in Cumbria; what is
unprecedented is the refusal of the authorities to dredge the
watercourses to carry it away.
Philip Walling
Belsay, Northumberland
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