[patriots] FW: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA

  • From: john TIMBRELL <johntimbrell@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ":" <charityrichards@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "maday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <maday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Caroline Stephens <carolinestephens52@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 08:14:40 +0000

Somerset Levels and dredging.I believe that the wording that you are seeking
does not exist. The advice DEFRA was following was a directive issuing out of
the EU requiring EU countries to let rivers revert to their natural state and
one of the reasons I believe was to encourage the return of wildlife.We in this
country follow EU directives and frequently add a bit more to demonstrate what
loyal Europeans we are. So the soggy boggy Somerset levels, drained by various
peoples since the middle ages by cutting channels to allow the water from the
Polden hills to escape to the sea when the tide was out were left undredged on
the orders of Defra who ignored the warnings of what would happen if they
stopped dredging.Cumbria flooding, as for as I can find out has nothing to do
with lack of dredging.It is Caroline Stephens jumping on the bandwagon and
quoting stuff that does not exist. When challenged she comes up with an excuse
as she did here with the crustaceans remark. Challenge her on this and
eventually she cannot answer. Then she requests or tells you that she does not
wish to communicate with you anymore.She did this with me when I asked for her
stance on the Illegal EU treaties.She obviously knew nothing about our
constitution which is surprising because it is all about our sovereignty.One
would have thought that a UKIP candidate would have been as familiar with it as
the Lord's Prayer.I've picked Caroline out because she put her head above the
parapet. There are a lot more like her. JohnT

Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:53:39 +0000
From: charityrichards@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: maday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

To: Marilyn Day <maday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 26 December 2015 at 10:13

Subject: FW: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA














I also believe there must be a directive that says dredging cannot
occur. 2 people now have been interviewed



on the TV and both said it was because of some crustacean living in the
river that they are not allowed to do it. Marilyn











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Message Received: Dec 26 2015, 08:11 AM

From: "Caroline Stephens"

To: "Marilyn Day"

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Subject: Fwd: Re: EU dredging rules/CUMBRIA





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> Caroline,

I've spent considerable time reading the directive and have been unable to
find any statement that would cause an issue to Cumbria. Perhaps you would
copy me the text with the paragraph number.
I find it odd that the dredging in Somerset post dates the directive, if the
directive restricts dredging, how did the Somerset dredging proceed?



On Friday, 25 December 2015, 15:55, Caroline Stephens
<carolinestephens52@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



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Crises bind 'communities'!...Unnecessary Disaster in Cumbria!!
Please read.

EU Water Framework Directive, adopted 2000 places constraints on the
dredging of rivers.

Here's your explanation - I suspected something like this - now it's
confirmed!



I wonder if these horrific floods will change people's minds over the
EU Regulations - I doubt it, because they will be kept very quiet!

Worcester has exactly the same problem! The water has nowhere to go -
except through your house!

I blame Common Purpose and daft Councils - as well as the EU regs -
which sensible people would ignore, as lives are at stake! Ask the
folks in Cumbria.......!



We are SO stupid to fall for this ....rubbish - where's the Common
Sense?





See the end of:
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/water/water-framework/index_en.html

The Sunday Telegraph, 13 December, 2015

EU dredging rules make effective flood
prevention in Britain impossible

SIR -- It is not surprising that the rivers in Cumbria have flooded
again (report December 6), so soon after the last inundation in 2009.
The Environment Agency cites all kinds of reasons for this.

However, it neglects to mention that its policy is dictated by the EU
Water Framework Directive, adopted 2000, which places constraints on
the dredging of rivers.

Putting in flood defences does not infringe the policy, as long as the
river is not dredged or embanked. Hence, for example, the erection of
expensive and ineffective glass panels on the wall next to the Greta
river in Keswick. Here there has been absolutely no dredging of the
gravel that has raised the river bed considerably over the last decade.



There is nothing unusual about heavy rainfall in Cumbria; what is
unprecedented is the refusal of the authorities to dredge the
watercourses to carry it away.


Philip Walling
Belsay, Northumberland









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