RE: is Oracle evil? About former Sun Open Source @Oracle
- From: "Walker, Jed S" <Jed_Walker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Ghassan Salem <salem.ghassan@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 08:26:55 -0600
I don't think many people do - I think it is a small minority of people
that think they are evil for this. They are a business and it makes
sense that they would not provide free service to a competitor. It is
just bad news that PostgreSQL has lost those servers. Hopefully Oracle
at least gave them reasonable notice, but PostgreSQL should have seen it
coming and prepared for it if they were smart.
As to mutating triggers, if I recall the Multi-version concurrency
builds all changes as new blocks that will replace the old when the
transaction completes, thus you still see the old blocks query-wise.
Tradeoffs to everything, but we had several cases were we would have had
to deal with this if It'd been oracle we had been using.
From: Ghassan Salem [mailto:salem.ghassan@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:10 AM
To: Walker, Jed S
Cc: aluoor@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: is Oracle evil? About former Sun Open Source @Oracle
I don't really understand why people see that Oracle is doing evil in
this case. After all, Oracle is not a charity, neither is Enterprise DB
(backed by IBM and RH). So Why Oracle should give servers so people can
develop software that EDB and others make profit from? Let IBM and RH
give away the required servers. Oracle never announced that they will
continue endorsing whatever Sun was endorsing,
rgds
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Walker, Jed S
<Jed_Walker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That isn't good. PostgreSQl is a very good database. I had trouble
trying to convince the developers that there should be a way to switch
out a WAL (archive) log after doing a hot backup, but otherwise I found
it very nice (especially not having to deal with mutating triggers!). It
doesn't have the high-end features and tuning tools, but it is a very
good solid product. I used a company called PostgreSQL, Inc. for 3rd
party product support and they were very good.
-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sven Aluoor
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:59 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: is Oracle evil? About former Sun Open Source @Oracle
Hi folks
Today in the headlines:
"Oracle shuts down open source build and test servers for PostgreSQL"
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/221051%2coracle-shuts-down-open-source-tes
t-servers.aspx
<http://www.itnews.com.au/News/221051%2coracle-shuts-down-open-source-te
s%0At-servers.aspx>
Sad to see innovative company named Sun to be destroyed by Oracle :-(
cheers Sven
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