Drop unused columns - I was referring to the "alter table ... Drop unused ... " command, to get rid of columns that are already marked as unused. Creating users and granting privileges - a DBA would probably not do this, but whoever does it would not need to get approval from the CCB, right? Drop tablespace - that last one was thrown in as a joke of the "why don't you try 'format c:'" variety. -----Original Message----- Thomas Day For us the following items would be under change control (CC): - Drop unused columns of a table (how do you know they're unused? If CC lets the DBAs drop columns that they "think" are unused then evenually they will drop a column that is used or will be used in a future release - we add columns now, when we can get them through the CC board, against a known future need.) - create user / change password for a user / drop user (for non-schema users, e.g. employees having an account to use the application) - Not a chance in the world that the DBA could/would do this. We have a whole, separate control function/group that does nothing but create and administer users. You can't have the DBA just creating users because someone asked them to. - granting privileges to a user - see point above. Just because a user thinks that they need a privilege doesn't mean that they're going to get it. They must justify the need to the control group and, if approved, they will be granted an existing role. If no existing role meets their need then a new role must be approved, impleted, and granted (as if that's going to happen). - changing system parameters - will any system parameter change require approval by the change control board? - You bet! It had to be done in the testing database first. If the change is of a type that would only be applicable to the production database - because of size, number of users, specific platform, etc. - then it has to be reversible. If it's an irreversible change, ie, something goes wrong and the database has to be recovered or rebuilt, then it's not likely to be approved. - drop tablespace including contents and datafiles - If you can prove that the tablespace is unnecessary then you can prove it to the CC board. The DBA can't just drop it because the DBA "thinks" that it's unnecessary. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------