David, I liked the default configuration in an earlier version of SuSE Linux, whereby if an X server was started up while running as root, the background color was red and a skull and crossbones image was displayed while the desktop was initialized. It was a strong reminder that you were doing a Bad Thing. Most utilities running in X (at least KDE, Gnome) will prompt for the root password if it is needed. Now, this may be a possible exploit vector for a future piece of Linux malware, but that least it gets people out of the habit of logging on as root to run apps. btw - I actually use the "runas" command in win32 to say make a modification to a configuration file that is owned by the install group which the dba group does not have change/write access. Paul On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:49:35 +0000, David Sharples <davidsharples@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > thats a story in bad management, not a good OS. > > You know if you leave windows alone and do nothing do it, chances are > it will stay up. > > I have never understodd the OS war, its just a tool to do your job. > Use what you have an what you feel best working with. leave others to > do the same > > Whats good for you, isn't good for someone else. > > PLus i'd also like to see the security model of Linux when you think > it will be on everyone desktops and people want to get into it. I bet > people will do everything as root if they had it on a desktop, which > is the main reason windows people get done - by running as > administrator all the time > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l