'setting' the standard - in quotes - means setting the bar. A standard that all others have to aspire to. :) Joel Patterson Database Administrator 904 727-2546 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of De DBA Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:27 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: MOS down. For maintenance? "...Isn't Oracle supposed to be 'setting' the standard for backend data processing -- or in this case a little front end maybe... " .. and you point was what, exactly? ;) Promising to set standards does not necessarily imply that those standards are going to be higher than anyone else's.. (q.e.d.) Cheers, Tony -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l