Re: Clusterware tests

Cheers Thierry

Note I wasn't saying that the clusterware was unsupported - as you say it is
a supported product. Equally the database is a supported product. The
difficulty is that creating a custom clustered resource as described in the
OP's whitepaper is not supported by Oracle (as the whitepaper says). So if
clusterware breaks Oracle will help fix it. If the database breaks Oracle
will help fix it. if your clustered single instance database doesn't work as
expected then they are under no obligation to help.

I do understand why Oracle take this view, but it can be somewhat
frustrating as a customer. In a previous life for example I was attempting
to integrate Oracle Applications user provisioning with Microsoft Active
directory. This is a supported configuration - there's even an example in
the docs that works. We wanted to use other attributes from AD in our user
provisioning - if you look at the example you'll see why - and the
provisioning no longer worked. This was a custom configuration and therefore
not supported, in other words Oracle support would only troubleshoot the
exact example in the docs. I didn't get anywhere with escalating this, I
think because Oracle wanted consultancy for this.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:34 AM, tgascard@xxxxxxxxx <tgascard@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> You can have support with Unbreakable linux with no cost cost for
> clusterware.
>
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/clusterware/clusterware_for_unbreakable_linux_faq.html#4
>
> I hope i'll help.
>
> Thierry.
>
> Niall Litchfield a écrit :
>
>> You are correct, it is an unusual setup though, and as the whitepaper
>> points out using clusterware to protect custom resources including single
>> instance databases falls outside of support (as in oracle won't help
>> troubleshoot the clustering of the database, they *will* support both the
>> database and the cluster separately.  if you review the whitepaper you'll
>> see that it uses custom start/stop scripts (in perl no less) to control the
>> database. This is what you'll have to write yourself (or steal from the
>> paper). srvctl is for oracle supplied and managed cluster resources.
>>  niall
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Alessandro Vercelli 
>> <alever@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>> alever@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>    Since we purchased a Standard Edition to place onto 2 x 4-core CPU
>>    (2 sockets, then) and our DBs are single-instance, I believe
>>    Clusterware is usable without overprice and without ASM; am I wrong?
>>
>>    Alessandro
>>
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>>    From      : "Jared Still" jkstill@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jkstill@xxxxxxxxx>
>>    To          : troach@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:troach@xxxxxxxxx>
>>    Cc          : alever@xxxxxxxxx
>>    <mailto:alever@xxxxxxxxx>,"andrew.kerber" andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx
>>    <mailto:andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>,"mzito" mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>    <mailto:mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx>,"melkin4u" melkin4u@xxxxxxxxx
>>    <mailto:melkin4u@xxxxxxxxx>,"Oracle-L" Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>    Date      : Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:51:40 -0700
>>    Subject : Re: Clusterware tests
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>>    >On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Thomas Roach <troach@xxxxxxxxx
>>    <mailto:troach@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>    >
>>    >> I might be mistaken but isn't RAC included in Standard Edition
>>    licensing?
>>    >>
>>    >> Based on this, RAC isn't an extra option you can purchase in EE.
>>    >>
>>    >> http://www.oracle.com/corporate/pricing/technology-price-list.pdf
>>    >>
>>    >>
>>    >RAC is an option in EE that cost $23k US per processor.
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >Jared Still
>>    >Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
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>>    <http://jkstill.blogspot.com/>
>>    >Home Page: http://jaredstill.com <http://jaredstill.com/>
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