Yep, that is EXACTLY what I am saying. DTV has been permissive for LPTVs for more than a decade, and LPTV's do not need advance permission to transmit digitally. There are more than a few DTV LPTV and translators. The regulation of LPTVs is much, much, much looser than full service TV stations: no minimum broadcast day, no city of license to serve, channel envelope versus mandatory modulation schemes. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Must carry fiasco > John Willkie wrote: > > Just what prevents this broadcaster from transmitting in COFDM? NOT the > > FCC! (LPTV stations are licensed to use the channel envelope, not a > > particular modulation system; 8-VSB was explicitly permitted for LPTV > > broadcasters BEFORE it was permitted for full service broadcasters. > > > > What prevents them from broadcasting in COFDM is the lack of receivers. > > I didn't know that. Are you really saying that LPTV stations could use > COFDM or varients already, without special permission if they thought > anyone could receive it? > > Heck, I'd buy a cheap PC receiver just to play with it if anyone was > doing that. Dunno if I'd be the only one though. > > - Tom > > > > Bob, bob. bob, you ignorant sl**. > > > > First up, there is no must carry for LPTV, so this is somebody whining about > > the terms for may carry. Let me get out the world's smallest violin. > > > > Just what prevents this broadcaster from transmitting in COFDM? NOT the > > FCC! (LPTV stations are licensed to use the channel envelope, not a > > particular modulation system; 8-VSB was explicitly permitted for LPTV > > broadcasters BEFORE it was permitted for full service broadcasters. > > > > What prevents them from broadcasting in COFDM is the lack of receivers. > > What makes them interested in cable carriage is the large numbers of viewers > > on cable who otherwise are not available to off the air broadcast. > > > > They're complaining about hoops. Gee, whiz. When I was running an LPTV > > station, I was being held up for $1MM to be carried by one cable system. > > > > There are only one or two insurance companies in the U.S. that provide > > broadcast insurance. Them being suprised that the cable company would > > insist on this for a non-must carry station is a "duh" kind of a thing. > > > > Also, I note that they mention the Easter week. I'm a full supporter of the > > first amendment (even for indecent material), but Texas and the world have > > more god-casters than are needed. > > > > John Willkie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:37 AM > > Subject: [opendtv] Must carry fiasco > > > > > > > >>from LPTV list server today... > >> > >>We are in the fight of our existance. Yesterday Time WArner cut us off > >>the air. When we began our quest to find support for us during the > >>city's franchise negotiations, Time Warner came out fighting and slammed > >>us with quite a few hoops to jump through. We successfully jumped > >>through all of them except for the million dollar broadcast liability > >>insurance. We only found one out of state insurer, hartford, who will > >>give us insurance for $5,000, but we cannot possibly afford that, so > >>they cut us off. This is Easter Week, and our churches have several > >>meaningful services that they want us to air this week, and it is > >>especially sad for those at home who cannot get to their churches. Does > >>anyone have an insurance source who is cheaper than $5,000? The company > >>has to be licensed in Texas.... Or can anyone give us a good reason for > >>why what they are asking for is unreasonable? I doubt they require > >>proof of insurance for other full service stations they are carrying, > >>but how can I find that out? > >>Mary Silver > >>KVHC > >> > >>Wouldn't it be nice if this broadcasters viewers could receive using a > >>COFDM receiver at $35 in a convenience store? And they could diminish > >>their dependence on cable? > >> > >>Bob Miller > >> > >> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >> > >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > > > > FreeLists.org > > > >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > > > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.