Without going into detail, I can say that it is unlikely that I will ever again be a principal in a title III licensee. There ain't any money in LPTV. I have given some thought to applying for a developmental license in a small town in Mexico, as part of a technology "incubator" that I play with starting from time to time. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Must carry fiasco > > Gee, it really seems like you and Bob should get together and get him a > digital LPTV license. Just to show it can be done. > > - Tom > > > John Willkie wrote: > > > Geez, Bob. I tend to not believe you. > > > > Let me see, I'll try an easy one. Who -- I want names -- at the FCC told > > you that a grant with no respect to modulation was a mistake? Did you know > > that the FCC can only correct a grant within 30 days of release, unless the > > grantee permits the correction? > > > > Who -- I need a name again -- at the FCC told you that you could not > > transmit using COFDM on an LPTV? Did, they actually refer you to a rule > > section? Have you actually read the rules, and -- more importantly -- the > > FCC Record decisions on licensing and modulation matters? > > > > And, just what's wrong with using an STA? They're good for more than 6 > > months these days? (Experimental or Experimental-developmental > > authorizations prohibit one from airing commercial programming, but that's > > not an issue with STAs.) > > > > I suspect that what happened is more in the world of social engineering; > > somebody at the FCC -- perhaps a few somebodies -- didn't like you and > > realized they could fool you. > > > > It's been more than a few decades since anybody there tried that with me; > > but then I don't ask them in person to interpret the rules; I always knew > > the rules in advance, and only asked them abou t the unwritten "practice and > > procedure." When they said that something couldn't be done, I usually could > > come up with instances where it had been precisely been done the way they > > said was proscribed. Not everybody liked me, but they quickly learned that > > the wool would seldom stick to my eyes. > > > > John Willkie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 7:52 PM > > Subject: [opendtv] Re: Must carry fiasco > > > > > > > >>John Willkie wrote: > >> > >> > >>>You obviously weren' paying attention. > >>> > >>>LPTV STATIONS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BROADCAST USING 8-VSB EXPLICITLY SINCE > > > > MID > > > >>>1994. > >>> > >>>LPTV STATIONS CAN BROADCAST USING COFDM TODAY BY FILING A SIMPLE NOTICE > > > > WITH > > > >>>THE FCC. > >>> > >>>"Media Professionals" at one time offered an "inland marine" insurance > > > > line > > > >>>for broadcast liability protection. I'm not sure if the NAB still offers > >>>the package, but NAB associate members at one time could get coverage > > > > based > > > >>>on their highest spot rate. > >>> > >>>John Willkie > >>> > >> > >>You say it but all the facts that I know say otherwise. One of my > >>friends got a digital license on his LPTV station two years ago with no > >>mention of modulation. When I took a copy to the FCC they told me it was > >>just a big mistake. > >> > >>We have had three meetings with the FCC on this subject alone. No way > >>could you go digital on LPTV or COFDM except as an experimental or STA > >>and even that would have been iffy after 1999. The rules for going > >>digital on LPTV have been passed, they have been recorded in the record. > >>But there is no mechanism at the moment for an LPTV station to actually > >>apply for such a license. The FCC needs some software written or > >>possibly it has been written but they need to pay $20,000 for it and > >>they do not have the money. Any month now we can apply for digital for > >>LPTV. Any donations please? > >> > >>Could you give a pointer as to where you get such information? I have > >>been dealing with Keith Larson, Hashemzadeh Hossein and Bruce A. Franca > >>for the last six years. Seriously if you have any information on how > >>COFDM could be used on LPTV I would love to hear about it. > >> > >>Bob Miller > >> > >> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >> > >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > > > > FreeLists.org > > > >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > > > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.