[opendtv] Re: The "real" problem with OFDM in the U.S.

Cliff, while I generally agree with you, there has been much unplanned
growth in cities in the last 60 years.  To suggest that the stations planned
then serve all populated areas now with little to no change in coverage
(which is the case) is a questionable proposition.

(not to support anything Bert has said on this thread, or most others).

John Willkie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cliff Benham" <cbenham@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: The "real" problem with OFDM in the U.S.


> You said effectively, lets toss out all the TV stations where they
> presently are located in Philadelphia, Baltimore and several other points
> up and down the East Coast and just put up new ones where ever we want
> because we "think" they will work better there.
> Do you honestly believe that could happen? Is it realistic to suggest
> your new stations will cover the East coast better than what has been in
> place since the 1940s?
> The placement of  each of these TV stations was a very well researched,
> thought out, planned and executed exercise that took place over many
years.
>
> How can you seriously make the suggestion that we just shut them all
> down and replace them with new ones at different locations and expect them
> to work better? Have you considered the costs for such a change? It
> would bankrupt the stations.
>
> Have you ever seen an FCC application for a broadcast TV station? Do you
> know what's involved in making application to
> the FCC to build and operate a TV station? What you have proposed is
> preposterious. How can I take what you write seriously when
> you suggest such unsupportable ideas?
> It's a totally irresponsible suggestion, because that's not how it would
> happen. The fact that the present OTA-DTV antennas and transmitters are
> located at the "old"
> analog sites is pretty good proof of this. Just look at what it cost to
> get "some" of the new DTV stations on the air. And they're not all on or
> at full power either.
>
> I'm not railing at you for fun, and I'm not trying to be annoying. I
> just think if you are going to propose a better way
> to cover the East coast with RF you should at least look into how it got
> to be the way it is before you simply toss it all out
> in lieu of something you dreamed up in a flash. Just make some
> reasonable suggestions about how the problem can be solved.
>
>
> Manfredi, Albert E wrote:
>
> >Cliff wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>I'm just trying to get people to think realistically
> >>about what they write. No more, no less.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Cliff, please, let's not be annoying just for the fun
> >of it.
> >
> >Craig's supposed "challenge" was to prove that you can
> >deploy a set of 6 national TV networks over VHF with
> >DTT, but not with NTSC. Get it?
> >
> >Without resorting to giant DTT SFNs, I think you can
> >deploy such national networks using analog or digital,
> >with a small advantage going to digital as I indicated.
> >
> >If you install huge synchronized SFNs, then of course
> >it's easier to stick with VHF-only with digital. That's
> >a no-brainer, but no one wants to go to that trouble.
> >
> >The costs of deploying "ideal" infrastructure are
> >obviously going to be greater than making do with what's
> >there, but that wasn't the issue here. And you can
> >CERTAINLY create national networks using existing
> >transmission facilities.
> >
> >Bert
> >
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