Bob Miller wrote: > This has always been the problem with "fixing" 8-VSB. As > soon as the fix makes legacy receivers obsolete in any > way you open the door to the consideration of changing > both the modulation and codec. All the fixes I have seen have been backward compatible, in the sense that exisitng receivers were never expected to stop working, even if they couldn't make use of the new features. > With DTMB, the Chinese standard, you are talking higher > data-rate reception than 8-VSB You are? Can you be specific? Is it more than 3.3 b/s/Hz? With a backward compatible 8-VSB upgrade, you cannot easily achieve spectral efficiency greater than the limits imposed by the 2/3 trellis code. (That's not absolutely true, if you start considering the possibility of multiple transmit antennas in a MIMO sort of scheme, each one transmitting a different symbol stream. But that gets hard to do with one-way broadcast anyway, and especially so if there are locations where reflections are not available from some of the transmit antennas. So let's ignore the highly unlikely.) So that could be a problem. If, for instance, equalizers become so effective that a useful DTT systems could be based on a 3/4 FEC or even less than that, then 8-VSB would not be able to benefit from those improvements. The same holds for DVB-T's COFDM, however. Existing receivers would not work very well if spectral efficiency were dialed up using less strong FEC, and especially not if the GI were taken up with new training sequences, to permit the higher spectral efficiency. Which is why DVB-T2 would create a need for new receivers to be deployed. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.