St. Louis, MO was a UHF-only market? There's been quite a few VHF stations (KMOX-TV/KMOV-TV) for example, on the air there for longer than I've been alive. I do remember a few UHF's, but it was mostly a VHF market. (I have an aunt who lives outside of St. Louis.) There was a market south of St. Louis that was UHF-only when I last watched TV there in the mid-1970s. I can't remember if those were translators, but they were hard to watch from Carbondale and Hurst, IL. (Where my father and mother came from.) John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Manfredi, Albert E Enviado el: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:56 AM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Re: FCC Commissioners disagree on media cross-ownership rules Dale Kelly wrote: > Relatively few broadcasters are even aware of the all UHF > markets existence. The largest of these UHF only areas is > in California's Southern San Joaquin Valley, sandwiched > between Los Angeles and San Francisco/Sacramento. It > encompasses the Fresno and Bakersfield markets, which were > established in the mid 1960s, IIRC. Fifteen or more full > powered UHF stations are currently operating in that area. > > The UHF only era ended there with the advent of DTV, several > station are currently assigned and operating high band VHF > DTV channels. But it only ended because of the need to pack in the DTT infrastructure along with the existing analog one. Yes? If UHF was used exclusively before, chances were that VHF would be used for some of the new DTT channels, during the transition. It looks like after transition, all-UHF areas will re-emerge. Maybe not where they were in analog days, but they will exist. Some examples of new all-UHF markets (that were a mix in analog-only days) are Orlando, Pensacola, Tallahassee, Shreveport, Lansing, St Louis, Raleigh, Wilmington NC, and others I didn't bother to search for. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-138A2.pdf So the question is, will cross-ownership and TV station ownership rules really change in these markets, post transition? Or is this just an unintended consequence? Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.