At 7:23 PM -0400 5/15/05, Manfredi, Albert E wrote: >I think the real point is, what you and Craig have been >describing already can/does exist. And it has *nothing* to do >with the IPTV the various telcos have been hyping up. Correct. We have been over this too many times. The real issue here is walled gardens versus open access to any person with a broadband connection. >As Kon has pointed out more than once, these schemes are >mainly used for pirating programs. But in principle, they >could be made legal. This is so far from being true as to be laughable. Piracy is background noise compared to the legitimate uses of streaming video via the Internet. Perhaps Bert should check out the revenues being generated via the Porn industry, which is typically an indicator of more generalized usage patterns when a technology matures. How much pirated content is downloaded from CNN, ABC News, Fox News, Apples movie trailers site and the list goes ON and ON and ON. Just because most of this content is not program length television fare does NOT mean it is irrelevant. It may be more relevant as peoples' patterns of consumption of visual information change. As Sam Donaldson said at NAB, the Evening News is dying. > >What's to stop *any* producer today from establishing his >own web site, perhaps aided by a Bit Torrent scheme if he's >willing to trust (or pay?) people to help him out, and >distribute content that way? He can charge for it a la >carte, if he so pleases. Or offer package deals. Or make it >available for free, if he so chooses. And there are tens of thousands of people who are doing this. All legitimate, and some are making money too (although many applications are for marketing and product support). > >Of course, unless viewers are the least bit savvy, they >would be confined to the PC to watch this stuff. But a visit >to Best Buy should be able to get them a PC card with output >connections compatible with TV/monitors. In many cases they PREFER to use the PC because it is properly set up for interactivity, searching and browsing. Video is now used for much more than just "lean back" entertainment these days. What is likely to change in the future is the ADDITION of interactivity, search and browsing to the big screen in the family room. This is the best venue for group activities, such as shopping, planning a vacation, and of course, multi-player games. > >So this already does, or can, exist. It hasn't been called >TV. It's been called streaming media, or just plain old >file download. Similarly, MP3 downloads have not been called >"radio," either. Tell that to Internet radio stations. There are many streaming services out there, and now we are beginning to see the logical extension - people subscribing to sources of information that are cached locally for consumption on demand. > >This sort of scheme has NOT revolutionized a thing so far, >yet it's been around for many many years, in one form or >other. Tell that to the heads of the news divisions of the television networks. You really do wear blinders when it comes to understanding trends... >And much more to the point, the IPTV the telcos talk about, >which is much more similar to cable than this basic Internet >download scheme is, is even more unlikely to revolutionize >anything. And even much more unlikely to bypass any middle >man. It's just another walled garden, like cable or DBS. The IPTV schemes MAY lead to a real revolution, once they understand that consumers are not interested in ANOTHER walled garden. Turns out that the telcos are going to have a difficult time breaching the existing walls, as I have pointed out repeatedly over the past few weeks. In the end, the telcos are likely to open up their systems and do what they already do well... a pure common carrier/bandwidth play. Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.