[opendtv] Re: Cable vs. Telco: What Happens When Competition Outpaces Washington Rules

  • From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:44:37 -0700

circa $220, IIRC

Small price, compared to the tuners ...

John Willkie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: [opendtv] Re: Cable vs. Telco: What Happens When Competition
Outpaces Washington Rules


> Bob Miller wrote:
> the
>  > Tivo model will morph from choosing what you want to record to
> recording
>  > everything unless you have decided not to record an item or
> category.
>  > You won't miss anything.
>
> I wonder how many 8VSB/ATSC royalties you would have to pay to
> have a Tivo that recorded 20 channels simultaneously?
>
> - Tom
>
>
> > What you describe is obviously NOT "TV". It something better than TV. TV
> > as we know it is dead. Wireless broadcast spectrum will be used in the
> > mix. It will be best used when it delivers ubiquitously mobile or fixed.
> > With the coming of inexpensive massive storage, multi terabytes, the
> > Tivo model will morph from choosing what you want to record to recording
> > everything unless you have decided not to record an item or category.
> > You won't miss anything. We have to find a name for it. Or does it need
> > a name? What's in a name anyway? Long live TV!
> >
> > Of course the present generation above 10 years of age has to die off
> > for this to become normal. Personally I find that I still am clicking
> > through the channels to find whats on even though I could record
> > everything and watch it when I want. Old habits die slowly.
> >
> > Bob Miller
> >
> > Silvio Macedo wrote:
> >
> >
> >>TV from the Internet? Not real?=20
> >>
> >>Just for a moment, lets suppose that the following is true:
> >>
> >>Imagine content I get through my ADSL is 70% of what I see on TV.
> >>The other 30% are news or simply to make me some company while I'm
> >>reading or work at my PC.
> >>
> >>In those 70% ADSL video, I get all major scifi shows I like, movies,
> >>sitcoms or independent movies. Instead of waiting months/years until
> >>one of the channels in my cable gets me Startrek Voyager/Enterprise or
> >>Stargate Atlantis Season 9 (http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/), I get
> >>them 10 hours top after they are broadcast for the first time in US -
> >>sometimes even before that.
> >>and no.. SciFi is not one of the popular channels - so, it won't ever
> >>come to my cable...
> >>
> >>Imagine that I have a client downloading everything that matches
> >>"startrek", "seinfeld" , etc,(azureus.sourceforge.net or
> >>sourceforge.net/projects/ptc) ,etc from one of the many RSS torrent
> >>sites. Add to that, that I get them on XVID, through my home network,
> >>into my TV, and don't have to go out and rent dvds, waste time looking
> >>for blockbuster movies of the week, wait for the show to start on TV,
> >>remember to tape it if I'm not at home,etc.
> >>I could even get HD on a projector, with AC3 six track, without having
> >>a STB and a new TV.
> >>
> >>I simply get videos from friends or look in www.imdb.com for the best
> >>movies ever, and simply type "magnolia" in eMule- give it a day or so
> >>to arrive.
> >>
> >>Plus, imagine that I pay 20euros/month for all of this - automatic
> >>downloading content I like, that I actually want to see, when I want
> >>to see. And all of this with a cheap 1Mb connection - not 8 or 16Mb as
> >>I could get for only another 20euros.
> >>
> >>Wouldn't I be willing to pay another 20euros to do all of this
> >>legally?
> >>www.itunes.com says I would.
> >>
> >>Just imagine if all of this was true...
> >>Technology and BW is there - we just have to make it legal and fair.
> >>
> >>Silvio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>You can call that "Internet TV" all you want - I'm sure using the =20
> >>>term sells articles for you - but this just isn't Television to me.
> >>>=20
> >>>Not to mention that it's been around for MANY years now.  At what =20
> >>>point did it become "TV"?
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>>On 13-May-05, at 8:53 AM, Craig Birkmaier wrote:
> >>>=20
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Basically any company that is
> >>>>using the public Internet to  deliver video content. This includes
> >>>>various news portals, and all kinds of streaming media enabled by
> >>>>companies such as Akamai. Also independent film types who have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>used
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the Internet to promote their creations, like the 405 video.
> >>>>
> >>>>Regards
> >>>>Craig
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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