circa $220, IIRC Small price, compared to the tuners ... John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Barry" <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Cable vs. Telco: What Happens When Competition Outpaces Washington Rules > Bob Miller wrote: > the > > Tivo model will morph from choosing what you want to record to > recording > > everything unless you have decided not to record an item or > category. > > You won't miss anything. > > I wonder how many 8VSB/ATSC royalties you would have to pay to > have a Tivo that recorded 20 channels simultaneously? > > - Tom > > > > What you describe is obviously NOT "TV". It something better than TV. TV > > as we know it is dead. Wireless broadcast spectrum will be used in the > > mix. It will be best used when it delivers ubiquitously mobile or fixed. > > With the coming of inexpensive massive storage, multi terabytes, the > > Tivo model will morph from choosing what you want to record to recording > > everything unless you have decided not to record an item or category. > > You won't miss anything. We have to find a name for it. Or does it need > > a name? What's in a name anyway? Long live TV! > > > > Of course the present generation above 10 years of age has to die off > > for this to become normal. Personally I find that I still am clicking > > through the channels to find whats on even though I could record > > everything and watch it when I want. Old habits die slowly. > > > > Bob Miller > > > > Silvio Macedo wrote: > > > > > >>TV from the Internet? Not real?=20 > >> > >>Just for a moment, lets suppose that the following is true: > >> > >>Imagine content I get through my ADSL is 70% of what I see on TV. > >>The other 30% are news or simply to make me some company while I'm > >>reading or work at my PC. > >> > >>In those 70% ADSL video, I get all major scifi shows I like, movies, > >>sitcoms or independent movies. Instead of waiting months/years until > >>one of the channels in my cable gets me Startrek Voyager/Enterprise or > >>Stargate Atlantis Season 9 (http://www.scifi.com/atlantis/), I get > >>them 10 hours top after they are broadcast for the first time in US - > >>sometimes even before that. > >>and no.. SciFi is not one of the popular channels - so, it won't ever > >>come to my cable... > >> > >>Imagine that I have a client downloading everything that matches > >>"startrek", "seinfeld" , etc,(azureus.sourceforge.net or > >>sourceforge.net/projects/ptc) ,etc from one of the many RSS torrent > >>sites. Add to that, that I get them on XVID, through my home network, > >>into my TV, and don't have to go out and rent dvds, waste time looking > >>for blockbuster movies of the week, wait for the show to start on TV, > >>remember to tape it if I'm not at home,etc. > >>I could even get HD on a projector, with AC3 six track, without having > >>a STB and a new TV. > >> > >>I simply get videos from friends or look in www.imdb.com for the best > >>movies ever, and simply type "magnolia" in eMule- give it a day or so > >>to arrive. > >> > >>Plus, imagine that I pay 20euros/month for all of this - automatic > >>downloading content I like, that I actually want to see, when I want > >>to see. And all of this with a cheap 1Mb connection - not 8 or 16Mb as > >>I could get for only another 20euros. > >> > >>Wouldn't I be willing to pay another 20euros to do all of this > >>legally? > >>www.itunes.com says I would. > >> > >>Just imagine if all of this was true... > >>Technology and BW is there - we just have to make it legal and fair. > >> > >>Silvio > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>You can call that "Internet TV" all you want - I'm sure using the =20 > >>>term sells articles for you - but this just isn't Television to me. > >>>=20 > >>>Not to mention that it's been around for MANY years now. At what =20 > >>>point did it become "TV"? > >>>=20 > >>>=20 > >>>On 13-May-05, at 8:53 AM, Craig Birkmaier wrote: > >>>=20 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Basically any company that is > >>>>using the public Internet to deliver video content. This includes > >>>>various news portals, and all kinds of streaming media enabled by > >>>>companies such as Akamai. Also independent film types who have > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >>used > >> > >> > >> > >>>>the Internet to promote their creations, like the 405 video. > >>>> > >>>>Regards > >>>>Craig > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.